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Vertical Schedule Orientation

Be able to toggle from a horizontal oriented schedule (elements in rows, parameters in columns) to a vertical schedule (Parameters in rows, elements in columns). Currently Revit only supports a horizontal schedule.

 

This would allow more flexibility for what can be fit on a sheet. Vertical schedules especially makes sense for scheduling a few elements that have many parameters you need to schedule. 

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Advocate
Advocate

For example, an air handling unit schedule with only a few units, but many parameters to define the unit. 

 

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Anonymous

Yes please! We have exactly the same requirement for AHU's, fans, boilers, pumps, and a variety of other equipment. Currently we simply don't schedule these items within Revit and have to use our own Excel exporter.

 

Seems like a basic feature to me! Just flip the schedule vertical instead of horizontal. Thanks for suggesting :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

Anonymous

Yes please!

Observer
Observer

Definitely NEED this feature!!! PLEASE

A lot of mechanical schedules are oriented vertically to fit on sheets because of the amount of parameters needed.

Explorer
Explorer

Definitely needed!

Advocate
Advocate

NEEDED!

You know its bad when an AHU schedule might not fit on a 30x42 sheet depending on what a certain title block looks like.

Anonymous

I think it would be very very useful if Revit allows us to list the fields in a schedule vertically as well.

 

The horizontal format it is too restrictive.

 

ex:

 

Unit Area          0.00

Balcony Area     0.00

Total                 0.00

 

Rather than:

 

Unit Area      Balcony Area      Total

   0.00                0.00              0.00

 

 

Thanks.

Participant
Participant

This ranks in the needed column for me as well.  Large equipment with many parameters look ridiculous being broken up into 3 or for separate schedules just to get them to fit.  


Explorer
Explorer

I just listened to the "What's new in Revit 2019" webinar and checked the Revit Road Map.  I am really disappointed that schedule appearance and formatting is not mentioned on either.  Architects and engineers are generally very attentive to detail and appearance.  The lack of schedule formatting options gives us no alternative but to be chronically ashamed of our schedule sheets. 

 

Basically, the entire engineering world has been using spreadsheets to schedule equipment for decades.  If we use Revit's equipment schedules it makes that no longer possible.  Therefore, there is no excuse for Autodesk to not make basic spreadsheet functionality, in terms of function and formatting available in Revit.

 

Autodesk is missing a major opportunity to revolutionize the way equipment data is managed.

Advocate
Advocate

This is the same idea as the below link, vote for both!

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/vertical-schedule-orientation/idi-p/7040737

Advocate
Advocate

Here is a pretty typical thing we have to do to break up out schedules and make them fit. This is scheduling 3 electric boilers....2019-04-15 07_41_45-Window.png schedule 1 of 2. Anyone have better workarounds?

Anonymous

We still use excel for ONLY this reason. I would really like to get away from that but not being able to format the schedules the way we want is unacceptable. For what a Revit subscription cost It's very disappointing that this basic feature has not been added yet.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

@devonpowell, that looks like a pretty good workaround. This limitation has made my company become more selective when deciding which columns remain in the schedule. For instance, almost all of our physical dimensions have gone away since we model these elements very closely to the actual equipment. Additionally, we've combined some fields and grouped under a common header like what's shown below. This can really buy a lot of space with temperatures (if you can use abbreviations like EWT, LWT, EAT, LAT). I think you could squeeze your schedule down to one without much sacrifice.

All that said, this is a silly limitation.


On a slightly different topic, how did you create the general notes and specific notes? Something like "Insert" a row below the title, and merge accordingly? Or did you use some other magic?


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Advocate
Advocate

@Evan.S.Hallyou are correct on your notes assumption.  just insert a row or 2 under the title and then combine as needed to get the required number of columns.  Shift+Enter is your friend when getting the text to wrap as desired, and for each new note  :cara_guiñando_un_ojo:

Advocate
Advocate

@Evan.S.Hall  - Agreed, and especially for that boiler schedule we could squeeze it down to one. Other pieces of equipment like an Air source heat pump with heat recovery modules it becomes harder. But good point on using abbreviations, etc. to shrink it down. 

 

confirmed on the general and specific notes. 

 

 

Anonymous

Please add this feature!

Yet another design firm not using the built in "smart" schedules simply because we desire a different orientation.

Advocate
Advocate

Pretty please with sugar on top.

Explorer
Explorer

This seems like a pretty obvious feature that has been missed / ignored for Revit!  It would be of huge benefit to most companies who want to use Revit to create schedules.  Please add this as a matter of urgency for a future release! :cara_que_hace_una_mueca:

Contributor
Contributor

This would make life so much easier, please added Autodesk.

Anonymous

Absolutely necessary! Please do it now!

Anonymous

This is a verry BASIC functionality that most people would excpect to be there. The amount of work needed to make workarounds for this type of presentation is HUGE. Should honestly just be a one button press to change between vertical and horizontal orientation. 

Explorer
Explorer

We build switchgear schedules and diagrams from other information in Revit. Currently we have to use excel to import the "vertical schedule" sticky using the Ideate Sticky addin (which is very good) but it would be preferable to keep all the data within Revit, which this feature would enable us to do.

Anonymous

We use DYNAMO to change data input but what our really problem its about the graphically organization of the information in Revit. For example, if you have to mange 50 parameters in a room, it is very difficult to work in a horizontal way in Revit.

Advocate
Advocate

@Anonymous , exactly. 

 

I'm disheartened that this post is 3 years old, and now news of this update from Autodesk.

Advocate
Advocate

@devonpowell, it needs more votes...post a link for all your colleagues to help the cause!

Contributor
Contributor

yes please add

we are using revit 2017 architecture 

and for door window scheduling we are facing same problem

 

Currently we are going with 2D detail with legend component

 

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Contributor
Contributor

Autodesk, how is this not a feature yet? What am I missing?

*Ability to format a schedule so fields are shown as rows instead of columns.*

This does not compute in light of the yearly subscription cost basis for usage of this software.

3.5 year old idea, many votes. Come on.

 

Participant
Participant

O my goodness the amount of clients that have asked me this - come on Autodesk, if you can crete tools for social distancing, im sure you can make this simple request happen!!!

Anonymous
+1, Yep, c'mon Revit, this is a no brainer...
Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Why is this still not resolved! :cara_llorando_a_mares:

Participant
Participant

UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED that this is not a feature in 2022!!! (that i can see)

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong here.... I would really love to be wrong.

 

Come on Autodesk - its no wonder architects are complaining about the lack of improvements. We shouldn't be asking for this stuff still 5 years down the line!!

 

 

Advisor
Advisor

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones please combine with @devonpowell link

Advisor
Advisor
Participant
Participant

Has anyone solved it????

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

I wonder if someone at Autodesk could provide some insight into why this hasn't been accepted yet (or even put "under review")? There is clearly a lot of passion about this one and if there are some technical challenge or other roadblock, perhaps some on this thread might have some ideas of how to overcome.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

WE NEED THIS!

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

This would be amazing.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

This would be a game changer!

 

Collaborator
Collaborator

This would be extremely helpful!  Make this work for key schedules as well though.  (e.g. Hardware Set key schedules for instance.)

 

You know what we really need is an idea that simply states, "Make Revit Schedules Work and be Functional like Excel Spreadsheets".  That would lump everything together and about say it all.  :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

 

Thank you!

Explorer
Explorer

Yes, we've only been asking for this basic function for five years, now would be good??  Is there anyone out there in Autodesk-world listening? (beyond those taking our subscription fees?)

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

As the demands for information in models keep increasing we have a hard time meeting our clients demands with the tools we have at hand. This simple and basic feature alone would have saved us hundreds of hours in workarounds to be able to present information the way our clients wants over the last 2-3 years. 

It is even so basic that it is hard to grasp that it doesn't exist. You have no idea how many employees that ask HOW you change the orientation of a schedule. And no one believes that it is true when you tell them that you can't. 

 

You really need to wake up on fixes like this. This is a basic feature that you'd expect from ANY software or web based service in 2022. And the fact that it doesn't exist in a world leading Architectural software?!  Hello?

Explorer
Explorer

Pitty to still see no update on this issue that is 5 years old now in this thread. Revit 2023 doesn't seem to fix this as I scroll the updated feature list. 

 

Can we all post messages in this thread to get it a bit more coverage?

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Is it so difficult for a developer? 6 years ....

Observer
Observer

I was trying to search for more information about the issue and seems like Autodesk has not or doesnt make any move on this one. Autodesk please give us an update or might as well a solution. Thanks.

Advocate
Advocate

Maybe we just need to keep posting to gain enough attention.  Years have passed, still nothing?

Participant
Participant

Come on Autodaesk guys, make an effort!

Try with an AI if you feel you can't do it by yourself!

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Yes I need it.

Contributor
Contributor

This should have been possible years ago.

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Totally agreed with this function, schedules need to be more graphics adaptative also.

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Hi, autodesk ? Are you there ?

Contributor
Contributor

Please, please, please Autodesk, add this to the roadmap at least!

Explorer
Explorer

Hard to understand why this is still not a feature...

Advisor
Advisor

found this on AUGI from back in 2010 - The ability to create horizontal rather than vertical schedules (augi.com)

Does Autodesk even look at AUGI wishes anymore now that they stopped the ability to add new wishes?

 

The original idea here was first posted in 2017, so 7 releases since starting Revit 2019 in 2018 and still nothing. Is annoying when simple ideas like this are ignored which are required by so many, but Autodesk add niche features like elliptical walls as seen in Revit 2020, which will hardly ever be used  as most designs will be rectangular in nature.

Contributor
Contributor

I also need this. It seems like it would be really easy to add this option and I have so much information that needs to be presented in this format that I am forced to import from excel because Revit can't do it natively.

Make this a reality please, its ridiculous this still isnt a feature. It is almost there already, the schedule can be flipped on the sheet, just make the values horizontal on the sheet!

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Please add this feature! So necessary!!!!

Explorer
Explorer

Autodesk, are you listening ??