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Add an Option to Disable Audit Message

I would like to have an option to disable the informational dialog that appears every time I select the Audit option. I regularly use Audit when opening families and templates. I don't need to see the warning every time I select the option. Especially after having used Revit for nearly a decade. :cara_guiñando_un_ojo:

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Advocate
Advocate

I concur!

When I taught Revit, I told users to use the audit function once in a while and to ignore the message that says it will take longer. I have audited files from a couple MB up to nearly a TB and tested the opening speed and found no discernible and repeatable difference in opening time if audited or not. This message is a waste of time and causes extra clicks for users.

Advisor
Advisor

Ditto the "This file is larger than 10 Meg" when you Bind a Link.

Does anyone still have .rvt files smaller than 10 Meg?

Our Template is 65.

Community Manager
Community Manager

While this is certainly a very valid request, I thought I'd share why the message is there in the first place. The Audit operation performs a number of file checks to validate the integrity and in some cases repair the Revit file that are not performed during file open. This means that a lot more data form the Revit file is accessed with two implications:

1. Some of these operations may indeed take a long time (this is highly dependent on file organization, how often the file is audited, etc)

2. A lot more data is in memory - may not be a big deal for some, but may have a significant performance impact on those with machines with lower RAM

All that is to say that there is a difference between the two options, and yes it is a good idea to audit your file every once in a while. 

Advocate
Advocate

Sasha, I appreciate the need for a new user to see the message, at least for a few times. Especially in those boundary conditions you describe. I agree with Robert above that I've never noted an appreciable difference in opening time. It's not like it takes twice as long to open the files I'm auditing. Then again, I've never used a machine at the low end of the hardware recommendations.

 

But experienced users will already understand the implications of selecting the option. It's also annoying when I'm editing 50-100 families that day to hit the button to dismiss the dialog yet one more time.

 

I hate to bring AutoCAD into the discussion, but one of the things that they do right is give expert users the options to turn off informational items that they know thoroughly and don't need to see again.

Community Manager
Community Manager

Like I said, this is a very valid request Emoticono feliz

 

Just want to make sure that less seasoned customers who read this post don't make the mistaken assumption that there is no difference. For the sake of comparison, I have opened files where file open was a totally reasonable time, but Audit took out my 64GB RAM machine after a few hours. However, like you said, I would not expect healthy files to have this kind of difference.

Advisor
Advisor

I've been doing AUDITs for ten years now.

I know it's good practice, and I try to get others to AUDIT at least once a month.

But I've never been able to explain to people why.

Is there any documentation anywhere of what an Audit actually DOES?

And if if finds (and fixes) anything, is there a log somewhere that says what it fixed?

 

What I'm thinking is that if we find the same kind of things happening all the time, we could find out why and teach people to avoid those problems in the first place.

Community Manager
Community Manager

Hi Dave,

 

Really good question. I do not think we have an official list available, in part this is because many of the checks and fixes are practically impossible to explain in layman's terms. In a past life I was a Revit developer and I would have a really hard time understanding, let alone explaining, some of them. Usually audit checks clean up minor inconsistencies like incompletely deleted objects, incorrect element relationships, or bad data. Typically they are the result of bugs that we have fixed in the software and audit ensures that the file no longer contains remnants of those bugs. In some rare cases, we do not know the origin of the issue, but we can easily fix it. Any output generated by the Audit process it output to the journal, but not all checks are required to do so.

 

One recent example of a check added to Audit is the 2015 family corruption problem. While audit cannot repair the corrupt families (due to missing information in the file), it does clean up the family so that it does not cause crashes and can be easily replaced by reloading the family from RFA. Any families identified as corrupt by Audit are written to the journal.

 

In general, because issues resolved by Audit are the result of bugs, there's not a lot end users can do in terms avoiding them, however what you can do is to make sure to upgrade to the latest service packs when they come out because the issues may very well be solved on our end. I wrote an article about this a few years back. It really is worth your time to update to the latest bug fix releases.

 

Thanks,

Sasha