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Adjustable row heights for schedules?

Sometimes we wish we could adjust the row heights such as microsoft spreadsheet. We can't do that on Revit.

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Anonymous

Please, add Resize option for all Rows not only for head. 

Anonymous

In a Schedule View, cells and rows have a fixed height, where in a Schedule Viewport on a Sheet, rows adjust to the content. I would like the same feature in the Schedule View itself.

 

Editing Schedules through their Viewport (vote for that as well!) would mitigate the problem but does not solve for Schedules not placed on Sheets.

Anonymous

Could you please allow us to override the row height in schedules and textboxes?

 

I often want to have more space between the rows than Revit default, but I am not allowed.

Autodesk Support
Autodesk Support

Same wish reported by German customer, Raimund Herbst at Dipl.Ing Denis Fink.

 

 

Anonymous

I have wanted this for many years.

Observer
Observer

Yes Please, Some formatting options for schedules is a must need.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Yes! Would make schedules with live views in much easier 

Anonymous

Good morning,

 

I would like to suggest an idea for the REVIT schedules. I think that it would be very useful to be able to change the row height, like we do with the columns width. There are many times that we need to do a schedule with a specific dimension not dependent on the text size.

 

Best Regards,

 

Esther

Advisor
Advisor

Yes, this would be very nice when you have to add revision clouds in the schedules.  Making the row heights a little larger would allow the revision clouds to fit between the rows without covering up the text.

 

Explorer
Explorer

Good morning,

 

Please make this happen. I cannot change my row height on the revision schedule and I don't want the row to depend on the text height. We have a specific text height standard for the client and we don't want to change the text height to match the row height. Please enable this feature. 

 

Thank you!

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

This is not a good solution, but the closest thing to a workaround I know: When in the schedule view, hold SHIFT + ENTER. Enter a small character (like a period). You still can't see the result from the schedule view, you are limited to increment size, and it looks silly.

Adjustable row height hack.JPG

 

Anonymous

We really want to use Revit to schedule the majority of our fixtures but I'm blown away by how far behind the customization of schedules are. The only work around I've found is to create a text Project Parameter, throw it in the schedule and adjust the font size on that one column. You can't hide the column but you can minimize the column size basically creating a double line.

 

*Edit: You can adjust the column size even more from the sheet. I was able to completely remove the gap!

 

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Advisor
Advisor

Adding a blank column with a larger font - that's a great idea!

Advisor
Advisor

@stever66, All you need to know about the technologies of 2018: " - Information modeling, virtual reality, generative design, building lifecycle, blockchain technologies..." -"Can I change the height of the row in the table? - "Hmm, make a new empty column and for it the height of the text is larger."

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

The workaround presented doesn't seem to work for Revision schedules.  When you right click on the column heading of the text project parameter there are no data rows in the revision schedule, so it can't edit the text height of the rows.  All it does is change the text height in the header.  

 

I don't suppose there are any workarounds for this in a revision schedule...

Advocate
Advocate

Related to row height, schedules should also be cloudable in the schedule, so we can add revisions to the schedule itself, rather than as annotative objects on sheets.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Please implement this feature. f you are able to create a schedule, you should be able to resize and customize the look of it as well. 

Contributor
Contributor

I agree completely!

This seems like a complete swing and a miss by Autodesk.

They sure ran with "auto" on this one.

The schedules simply read as a cluttered mess in comparison to legends where we can adjust the spacing withing each cell/row/column. 

I think you need to spend more time not only on this, but topography limitations as well.

Anonymous

At the very least, make it so the 'workaround' to change the row height would function in the titleblock family - all the font override options are greyed out there.

Anonymous

Sadly, adding a new column with larger font to increase the row spacing does not work in a revision schedule in Revit LT Suite 2019.  

While the LT version is stripped down, being able to adjust the revision schedule row spacing by a uniform amount would have been brilliant.... and is something Autodesk should look into.  

 

I may download a trial of the full version of Revit, time permitting, to see if this limitation is overcome there.  If so, I may be able to streamline my company title block and revision schedule there .... 

Advisor
Advisor

@r_d_clarke & @Anonymous I just tried it in Revision Schedules (in the Titleblock), and it works for me (in R2019, didn't test earlier versions yet). I can't believe I didn't discover that Font button earlier...! I've been doing micro-adjustments to the font size for what seems like forever, and/or manually inserting dummy "spacer" revisions (to double-space the schedule). Finally, we can just click the letter (to select the column) and adjust the Font height, then click the header and set it back to normal (if headers will be shown).

 

The only issue I saw was that (seen when doing it on a data column), Revit appears to calculate line-wraps (and row spacing) based on the larger Font size set for the column, but displays the contents using the style's size (set in the appearance properties for the body text). This is a non-issue, though, since we'd only do the formatting on a blank column anyway.

 

On a related note, I would love to be able to see Dummy Revision Data in Titleblock editor (for Revision Schedules). It would save a lot of back-and-forth adjustments (reloading), or needing to use the Headers as a dummy data row.

 

@NateBrush I was going to point you to the idea: Revision clouding in schedules (but then I found your Revisions on Schedules idea that was posted a day earlier)! I notified the mod to combine them.

Explorer
Explorer

Would be nice to have the ability to resize or word wrap content in a row in a Revit schedule much like Excel. With the ability to word wrap the contents of a row it would make editing/ viewing schedules much easier. 

Advisor
Advisor

I don't know what I was doing differently, but I can't get it to work now...

Explorer
Explorer

@lionel.kai Did you ever figure out how were achieving the font height to apply to each row? I can only get it to apply to the header and not any of the actual revision lines.

Contributor
Contributor

Hi Autodesk, How hard can this be, You have had numerous request to implement Adjustable Row Heights for Revision Schedules and Schedules, Can you please give an update on when we will be able to have this functionality. 

 

Thank you :cara_que_sonríe_con_ojos_sonrientes:

Anonymous

One would have thought the option to adjust the row height in revision schedule will be a no brainer, unfortunately it is in Revit. I will like to see this functionality added

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

This also needs to apply to the Revision Schedule as well.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

not sometimes... always.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Please make this happen folks this is extremely annoying.

Contributor
Contributor

Many companies have standardized titleblocks and different layouts for different needs. I can see this problem has been around and complained about for quite some time. Autodesk probably has their reasons for not having this feature, but from the user's end it comes off as they just ignored a simple yet critical feature and continue to do so. Surely they don't expect their customers to overhaul their template standards to accommodate Revit's sub-optimal handling of revision fields.

 

2021 just released and I haven't checked it out yet. Maybe I'll be lucky and it will have fully functional revision schedules.

 

Contributor
Contributor

I think what is really needed is a cell margin setting like Excel or Word or AutoCAD. In the situation where data in a cell wraps over multiple lines (e.g. a note block), you would still want Revit to be able to generate suitable row heights automatically without manully manipulating row heights. It would just be nice to be able to create some breathing space between rows in some circumstances.

 

Also notice that under the Sorting/Grouping tab, checking the Blank line checkbox will help in some situations such as a note block.

It's incredible that after 5 years of requests about integrating one of the most simple functions for resizing row heights in schedules, the Autodesk team is completely inept at solve this one. Instead, their official solution is a sloppy workaround of changing text heights and hiding fields - how lazy.

Contributor
Contributor

Another obvious feature that's been missing for over a decade from this program.  

Advocate
Advocate

Checking in 2022. Has this been implemented yet? What are we paying 400usd/mo for?

Advisor
Advisor

@sascari Yikes! Why are you paying $400/month? Oh, maybe you mean for your whole company, duh. :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa:

El estado se ha cambiado a: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

The Factory

Advocate
Advocate

@lionel.kaiIn Italy, for whatever reason Autodesk has decided, a monthly single user license for Revit is 421 euros / month.

Advocate
Advocate

Hello @kimberly_fuhrman-jones, great to hear this has been accepted for implementation in the near future, but I don't actually see this on the public roadmap. I presume an oversight?

Hi, @Joey_JM !

 

Since Revit 2023.1 was just released, we are in the process of updating our Revit Public Roadmap. Stay tuned!

 

Thank you!

Kimberly

El estado se ha cambiado a: Implemented

We are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit 2024! Thank you for your contribution to improving Revit!

Help | Resize All Rows in Schedules Placed on Sheets | Autodesk

 

 -The Factory

Contributor
Contributor

Sadly, this is only a half attempt at this accomodation.
It's an all or nothing setting change and cannot be done on an individual basis.
I would love the option to adjust a single row or a single column. Take it further, I'd like to be able to control that within the cell block that I'm currently in that doesn't apply it to the rest of them in the schedule.

Advisor
Advisor

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones - NOT fully implemented (unless I'm missing something?) - doesn't work for Revision Schedules (the main reason we need it), and cannot adjust rows individually (as requested by some above) - or even the Header separately!

Why can't I vote for this?

Cannot find this feature even in Revit 2024.

@sophie.schilling ,

The ability to adjust the row height of schedules (as per the original Idea) was implemented in Revit 2024 when a schedule is placed on a sheet. Because this Idea was implemented, voting is closed. 

However, as others have pointed out, this functionality was not applied yet to Revision Schedules (not specified in the original Idea). This should be separated into a new Idea.

 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-566B3946-6929-4E17-851A-A61C02B7F132

 

 

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Enthusiast
Enthusiast

I've started a new voting option specific to row heights in revision blocks titled "Revision Block Row Height" Please vote and share @kimberly_fuhrman-jones @lionel.kai @Tres_Hernandez @sophie.schilling @qianr 

Advocate
Advocate

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones 

"However, as others have pointed out, this functionality was not applied yet to Revision Schedules (not specified in the original Idea). This should be separated into a new Idea."

 

Really?? After 7 years and over 700 votes, you're going to be pedantic about this and pretend like you didn't know we  want this for revisions schedules too? How many more years and votes do we need before that happens now?

 

What's up the monkey's paw approach to implementing Ideas? This is becoming a very concerning trend. The same thing was done with PDF imports, for example. The only option that was provided is to insert a rasterized image of the vector line based PDF... That's the same thing as just inserting an image like we've been doing for years! There's no way Autodesk didn't know that we wanted to be able to import the vector linework. I actually find it insulting that Autodesk thinks we won't notice or care about things like this.

Explorer
Explorer

That would be super useful

Collaborator
Collaborator

This post was made in 2017

 

it's 2024 now and this feature is still not available.

 

Absolutely ridiculous.

Contributor
Contributor

The new feature makes the formatting wildly inconsistent: Titles are vertically centered, Headers are bottom aligned, data rows are top aligned, grouping headers and footers are vertically centered again. Also when a cell overflows, it still grows in height. I added a sample below.

 

It would be a much better to be able to add padding to the cells and/or specify vertical alignment.

 

Additionally having to specify the row height in the sheet view is cumbersome: room lists for example are one schedule that is placed in all the plans and filtered by sheet. Now we'll have to apply row height to all the schedules-placed-on-sheets for consistent formatting. EDIT: Actually when you change it in one schedule on a sheet it will change in all the other instances of this schedule on other sheets as well.

 

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