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More Country-Specific Out-Of-The-Box (OOTB) Content

Just coming to a very sad realisation: Revit lacks substantial country-specific content (families, templates, etc), especially for EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Russia, etc).

Very short and annoying example: rebar types (from 1 to 99). Never heard anybody in Europe using such numbering. It's confusing, the rebar preview when loading into project it is so so small i just can't identify it. I end up loading ALL rebar types, just in case i might need some of it. A descriptive name (or clear description upon loading into project) would help me a lot, like : open stirrup, closed stirrup, seismic stirrup, straight rebar, simple-bent rebar, double-bent rebar, circular stirrup, diamond/romboid stirrup, elicoidal stirrup, etc.

Schedule templates (country-specific) are very important also!

Why do i have to buy additional add-ins just for basic templates or basic commands, like easier rebar commands, easier schedules, easier views, easier layouts? This kind of little (yet very important!) tweaks are coming by default in other software like Allplan or Tekla.

OOTB content is the real value of any software. Users need simple, efficient tools in order to produce valuable results quickly.

P.S. It just blows my mind how many (specific) templates and tweaks Allplan has. The base-frame of Allplan is much weaker than Revit, yet many users are using it just for its' powerful templates and template schedules.

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Autodesk
Autodesk

Hello,

 

Thank you for bringing this issue to the table, as it is an interesting topic that we should explore more. We know that rebar shape codes exist in some EMEA countries (like UK, France or Sweden), while in others they don't (like Romania or Russia).  For the latter case, even if the shapes don’t have codes per-se (01,02 etc.), the default shapes available in the Revit content that one installs can be beneficial, by providing basic rebar content to start with in a project, which can be further adapted to match the specifications of the country, company and project.

 

I really like your idea of naming the rebar shapes to describe how they look like, something similar to the German practice too.

German shapes.png

 

Of course, their names should be translated in the language of the target country. And here comes my question to you. Could you please tell me if the country/countries where your projects are located have standardized names for each rebar shape, that are well-known by the construction industry from that region?

 

Can you please also describe me in more details what would you see as necessary to make “easier rebar commands”?

 

Kind regards,

 


Dan Peticila
Product Manager
Advisor
Advisor

@peticid : Thank you for your answer. As for the rebar codes, i have nothing against it if the Revit database makes it easier to manage the content this way. I believe German practice rests my case: if a civilized country like Germany found it fit to name those shapes, who am i to disagree? (English names for rebar shapes should suffice, anybody could use Google Translate for other language).

"Easier rebar commands" is somewhat loose terminology. Certain users may be accustomed to other similar structural (reinforcement) software and (desperately) trying to find similarities or similar modalities of achieving the same reinforcement goals. I've seen Revit extensions like Graitec and Sofistik promising "huge" improvements over the stock Revit, while, in fact, they are mostly creating a easier-to-understand and easier-to-use interface. Those extensions are doing some sort of rebar automation, auto-numbering management,auto sheet creation, auto sections, auto many-things etc. This is basically what Revit newbies are calling "easier rebar commands". Straightforward type of interface, exactly like the one in Revit 2017 (rebar) Extensions menu.

I know that it's all the same from a programmer's point-of-view, but it's quite different from newbie's POV. Especially when comparing Revit with other software like Allplan or Tekla (which are doing all that automation and management by default).