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Fix text boxes so that you don't have to hit backspace when editing!

I just keep hoping this bug will get fixed, but with each release it persists.   Currently, if you have text on a view, when you click into it to edit, it more often than not, does nothing when you start to type.  It's sooooo irritating.  I don't remember what release started doing this, but it wasn't always like this.  Editing a text box is a very basic action that should work seamlessly.  I can't tell you how may times a day I start typing to find that I have to retype because of this glitch.  I know, you would think I would learn after a couple hundred times of doing this, but it still gets me a couple times a day.

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Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Yep, this error came in version 2017 as part of an improvement.

Also waiting for them to fix this. Also they should add the text aligment tools when you are inside of editing a text.

Anonymous

This is one of those things that changed for the better? Geez man, why... the functionality is SO WRONG. Please fix this, Please.

Participant
Participant

Drives me bonkers every single time.

Advocate
Advocate

Yep, this is really irritating. Disappointing that what is essentially a bug-fix is still a user-requested 'feature' several versions on.

Anonymous

What is more irritating??? The text box before 2017 where it reformatted based on zoom level (took 9 years to fix this) or the new editor where you type in limbo?

Anonymous

I think it is the part where Revit doesn't know how to do text editing and needs to figure out a work around within their own software.

Explorer
Explorer

I find that when you click on a piece of text to edit it, if you leave your cursor over top the text element you can edit it just fine.  If you click it and move the cursor off the element, you can't edit it unless you move the cursor back over it.

Anonymous

Here we are, .... half a year later. Still no fix..........hopefully this bumps it up to their attention. 

Contributor
Contributor

@chendersonis correct, if you want it to work, you have to keep the mouse over the text box your editing... too bad I developed a habit over the years of letting go of my mouse so that I can type with both hands.  Actually, I do have a habit of moving the cursor off of the text box so I can better see what I am typing, so I have a 100% failure at editing text in Revit unless I make a conscious effort not to move the mouse.

Explorer
Explorer

Yes why isn't this fixed, very annoying. Make this simple update before any other, text is something that is used more than any other command. 

Autodesk
Autodesk

Can anyone provide a video or Revit file to reproduce the problem? I have tried several times but cannot reproduce the issue you have encountered. Thanks in advance!

Anonymous

This was an old bug and I have not experienced it recently while editing text.

Contributor
Contributor

I've been watching for it today and its happened about 5 times. 

 

I installed a screen recorder (OBS) and a software to display keystrokes but I haven't managed to have the issue while recording.

 

Edit: I just saw Revit is on version 2021 and I'm still running Revit 2020.2.  Perhaps this was fixed in Revit 2021??? Hopefully someone else can confirm.

Contributor
Contributor

I've found a way to reliably reproduce the issue.

 

Reproducible by moving mouse to edge of screen/window after selecting text to edit.  Happens most reliably by swiping text to select and continuing to hold the mouse all the way to the edge of the screen.  It can also happen without selecting text and just placing the cursor and quickly moving mouse to screen edge, but this is much less consistent.

 

I'm not sure if other elements of the Revit/Windows UI can also cause the issue like the window/screen edge.

 

Revit still has Windows' focus throughout; tapping backspace gets Revit back to proper operation and allows entering text without moving or clicking the mouse.

 

Video link below.  Enjoy!

 

https://youtu.be/-UuQqrqM5x0

Autodesk
Autodesk

Thanks for recording it! Unfortunately I cannot reproduce it either at Revit 2020.2 and Revit 2021 by following the same steps. But I will still show the video to the developers and see if we could find some way to resolve it.

Advocate
Advocate

Yes, this problem is annoying. 

Contributor
Contributor

Trying out Revit 2022. Sorry to inform everyone, but it's still doing it. 4 years and counting.

Collaborator
Collaborator

Glad to see I am not the only person who hates this "improvement" with no useful purpose whatsoever. Fix this please

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Here we are, 4-5 years since this issue started appearing in Revit, and it still persists. About half the time I click into a text box and start typing....nothing happens. I have to click out of the text box and click back in...sometimes this fixes it. For the lonely moderator that sometimes looks at these forums, here is what I have noticed.

 

  • This issue happens for existing text boxes. If I make a new one, I can type freely. If I modify an existing one, there is about a 40-50% chance that I type and nothing happens
  • This issue mostly happens when typing at the beginning of an existing text box. A small hack is I will position my cursor right behind the first character in the text box, and then I can start typing. I then have to delete the left over text I don't want.

Please, please, please try to fix this glitch. And while you are at it, allow for setting the orientation of the text outside and inside of the text editor. 

 

Thank you

Advocate
Advocate

Yes I still have this problem in Revit 2022. I should be able to highlight text and then just start typing. Not highlight, then delete, then start typing. No text editor requires that. 

Participant
Participant

This same behavior is still in 2019.2.6 and 2021.1.6. It's not a good thing.

Contributor
Contributor

I can confirm this is still happening in Revit 2023

Participant
Participant

This is still an issue in 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

This problem is still happening in Revit 2023...

 

Revit's text handling needs a SERIOUS upgrade.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

I would love for a programmer to jump into these forums at some time to explain to us what we are missing. From the outside, this seems like such a simple fix. Every word processor that I know of does not require you to backspace before you can start typing. So either this issue is purposely overlooked by the development team, or it is just not worth the (probably modest) resources it will require to edit the code. 

Autodesk
Autodesk

Thank you all for the comments and Revit team has reproduced the issue in-house. We have logged a bug fixing ticket and has prioritize it as very important case. We will continuously post update of the findings. We do understand that this will cause you delays and affect your development planning, and we appreciate your cooperation and patience.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

@minjie.wang Thank You! Looking forward to seeing this one fixed.

 

I'm glad it only takes 5 years of bellyaching to affect real change

Contributor
Contributor

I thought Revit 2024 was not doing this but I can confirm now that it still happens. Today I had an instance where the text box stubbornly refused to allow a full stop (period) until I alt-tabbed out Revit and back. I'm not sure if it's related but it is concerning nonetheless

Observer
Observer

I still deal with this issue on a regular basis. It's very easy to replicate using the following workflow (from another forum @treyk - https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/text-editing/idi-p/12128773). It sounds like they have a fix coming but hasn't happened yet. I'm using Revit LT 24.1.10.25


" The problem happens with this exact workflow:

  1. Open a text  note for edit.
  2. Left-click and hold somewhere in the text to start the caret (vertical line that is the text cursor).
  3. While holding the mouse button down, drag left or right to highlight some text.
  4. Now, WHILE CONTINUING TO HOLD THE MOUSE BUTTON DOWN, move the mouse somewhere outside the bounding box of the text characters (this is an invisible box that is very close to the edge of the characters in each line).
  5. Release the mouse button, and DO NOT MOVE THE MOUSE AT ALL AFTER RELEASE.
  6. Now type, expecting what you type to replace the highlighted characters... but they are not replaced.  

     

     

After selecting the text, a "Mouse Up" beyond the text bounding box causes the text to lose focus until the mouse moves again, so the keyboard does nothing.  A "Mouse Move" restores the focus to the text, and thus the keyboard works.


After Step 5 above, if the mouse moves even the tiniest bit, the keyboard will work on the text as expected.  Most people do move the mouse slightly on button release, so in this case they report that they can't reproduce the issue.

 

Our fix keeps the text in focus after a Mouse Up, so the keyboard will always work after Step 5.

 

Sorry for the years of frustration! " 

Participant
Participant

I'm so glad you brought this up!  I'm experiencing it today in Revit Lt 24.  It gets me all the time because I'm so used to being able to edit text "seamlessly" in every other program.  Like you, I never seem to get used to it.  I hope it gets fixed!!!  

Contributor
Contributor

Revit 2025 still doing this :cara_de_decepción:

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

well, it's only been 6 years. I'm guessing it'll be another 3 or 4 before they take note

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