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Remove Element from Design Option Set

It's a simple, small idea, but useful I think. We currently have a designated button that takes an element from the Main Model and adds it to a Design Option Set ("Add to Set"). But there's no method of removing an element from a set and putting back in only the Main Model besides deleting it and copy/pasting, which doesn't feel as legitimate as adding it does. It may work for components like furniture, but when it comes to walls and such, you have to verify that the heights are correct and that it's attached to the appropriate elements around it.

 

Just add another button: "Remove from Set".

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Collaborator
Collaborator

copying and pasting back to the main model also removes phasing, which is a pain, especially in complex projects.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Yeah, copy/pasting should not be the 'preferred' workflow - that's a non-starter in any project beyond schematic. There are forum posts addressing/requesting this simple thing going as far back as 2007...

Advocate
Advocate

Stumbled of the fact that elements cannot easily be removed from Design Options recently, too. The cut/paste workaround gave us a good headache.

This is simply missing, and should be implemented! Thanks!

Explorer
Explorer

Agreed, so tired of these common sense functions being absent from Autodesk products.

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Yeap, I totally agree, they should create this function. Listen up yo! Autodesks programmers. Please create this button

Contributor
Contributor

I absolutely agree, please add the ability to remove objects.  

Observer
Observer

This is absolutely ridiculous!!!!! 

Agreed

Just add another button: "Remove from Set"

Anonymous

Autodesk at it's best. Create a Tool and not finish it !

Contributor
Contributor

Just started working with design options. First thought: this will make so many things easier! Second thought: why can't I remove an item from a set once I've put it in there?

 

Autodesk, please add a "remove from set" option!

Anonymous

Autodesk, please add a "remove from set" option!

Anonymous

This is ridiculous to be honest.

 

Advocate
Advocate

Great idea!

Anonymous

Are they serious?  How can they possible release this without the option to remove?  They have such a strangle hold on the software monopoly they simple just don't care.  'Give them slop, they'll eat it.'

Anonymous

knoc knoc! Is anybody here?! ... Autodesk?!

Observer
Observer

Absolutely crazy that this function is still not available.

Anonymous

Fully agree. WHO creates these functions? Certainly not users of Revit. Autodesk, please hire seasoned Revit users to review every function in your products.

Explorer
Explorer

I completely agree, as well. Still no solution from Autodesk???

Advocate
Advocate

Oh, great.
6 years later. This is still not fixed.
Why do we even pay the exorbitant subscription fees?

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Agree, but don't you just go into the set and cut it out?

Participant
Participant

Too depressing

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

Autodesk, please create a way to remove objects from design option sets. It's crucial to the design process and would help the work flow a ton! 

Explorer
Explorer

I totally agree. It is frustrating when you want to remove an element from design options. 

Kindly consider this urgent.

Contributor
Contributor

At this point it's just sad how stagnant development has become on autodesk products.

Why is this not implemented yet. With cutting and pasting your element will not only lose data, but you will also lose all annotation attached to this element. What the frisbee Autodesk!?

 

I want to extend on this Revit Idea with the function that users can add an element to another Design option WITHIN THE SET when it is already in another Design Option in the SAME SET.

 

Right now you'll get the message that the element is already in a Design Set. YES I KNOW I put it there myself, now let me also add it to another option in the same set.

 

The workaround right now is:

  1. Cutting the Element from the Design Option
  2. Cry because I lost 10+ hours of annotation work
  3. Paste it in the main model
  4. Add it to the Old and the New Design option, because now all of a sudden it is possible....

 

THANK YOU AUTODESK....

Participant
Participant

Still not understanding why it wasn't there in the first place. When you make an option to add to something, make the reverse available too. 

Please add the remove from set option.

Knock Knock.
Whoes there.
well defnitly not autodesk

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Plus one!

Please provide this in an update soon Autodesk

Participant
Participant

Autodesk? Hello? Anyone there? At the least comment that you took notice of this and hopefully add a timeline to it that possibly this issue might get fixed some cheerful sunshiny day in the future?

 

Meanwhile I'll put my hopes in following this discussion...

 

@Anonymous 

Observer
Observer

@Anonymous @Erikl8 @Adriaan.debelderEE9S6 @auburn @stefan_gokstorp

#Solution is here.

Check the video below

Contributor
Contributor

@teja_katta I think you've misunderstood. What we want is a way to move an object from a design option to the main model WITHOUT getting rid of the other design options. We would like a reverse of the "add to set" button. As the original poster said, the only way to get a an object from a design option to another design option or the main model is to cut/copy and paste. While this will get the object where you want it, it removes any connectivity, which is a particular problem for any MEP systems or walls or structure.

Advocate
Advocate

It's 2023. How is this still an issue?

Explorer
Explorer

Autodesk, please add 'remove from Design Option' button. 

Contributor
Contributor

Come-on Autodesk !! The addition of REMOVING objects from sets would be so, so useful. It seems crazy that ADD is available but not REMOVE.

Collaborator
Collaborator

I agree this is a feature that needs to be added, and hope it gets added to the roadmap, but I suspect that it will take some restructuring of code to make it happen.  Lets give Autodesk some constructive feedback about why we find ourselves needing to remove elements from design options (vs accepting a primary) and how we expect the tool to be used and handle errors.

 

There are three scenarios where I find myself needing to remove an element from a design option:

  1. When it was added accidently to option(s) in a set and it is not a recent action or there has been a sync so undo is not an option
  2. When I click "Add to option" while editing an option and the item is added to the active option, rather than all/multiple options in the set.  The element needs to be removed so I can switch back to the main model and add it to the correct option (a secondary button or dropdown to bring up the dialog for adding to sets while being in an option would be nice too!)
  3. When a portion of a design is decided and needs to move back to the main model, but the remainder of the set is still being decided.

I would expect the "Remove from option" button to be located in the ribbon with the "Add to Set" button.  It would be active when elements in the active option are selected.  When clicked, the selected options would be returned to the main model with all current associations and settings.  If returning it to the main model creates overlapping elements (the element being returned exists in other options) I would expect a yellow warning box, ideally with the option to intuitively and easily delete the overlaps in other options, but at least providing a notification of overlap so I can manage the elements in the other options.

 

The last scenario happens most frequently, such as:

  • the option set for a reception area that includes a few waiting spaces.  The waiting area design is decided and needs to return to the main model, but the reception desk options are still in discussion.  
  • A design option set for a conference room is created with multiple options.  After exploration it is realized that a portion of the layout is the same in every option.  That portion needs to return to the main model so we can continue making minor tweaks that are visible in relation to all the layout options without duplicating efforts.
Explorer
Explorer

I believe design options should be treated the same way you would a 'Model Group' or a 'Workset'. Both those options allow user the flexibility to add/ remove elements to suit designs as the design changes. This is a very efficient and effective way of furthering our models as the design progress. 

Design options should not be a 'rigid' tool, especially when one is trying different 'options'.

Explorer
Explorer

This is what happens when you allow an AEC software monopoly  to take shape. 

I also can't believe this is an excluded feature.

Explorer
Explorer

Agree, it would be great to have ADD and REMOVE buttons available for design options.

 

In the meantime, here is a solution that might help.

 

https://youtu.be/dCMOSfFenw8

Not having a remove from option set is a big pain, please add it to Revit LT Autodesk

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Thought this might be a big help but nope, no way to remove from a set.. (to make matters worse the "edit selected" option make you think you can..)
Cant use them in schedules easily either..
Revit promises so much but falls over so often..

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

You can use the "add to set"-dialog to remove elements but you cant open the dialog for elements already in the set you are viewing. 

 

You need to open the dialog from the main view. Select the elements by unchecking "Exclude options".

 

Solution: 

1. Select the "main model" design option in the design option panel on manage tab or from selector on bottom toolbar. 

2. Uncheck "Exclude options" in bottom right toolbar to make all elements selectable in main view

3. Select the elements you wish to remove from a design option

4. Go to manage tab and press "add to set" button

5. Uncheck the design options you wish to exclude the elements from

 

The "add to set" should be renamed to "add/remove from design option", the "exclude options" filter should be selectable from the actual design options panel and the error for "element already in design option" should be removed. 

Collaborator
Collaborator

@spindelmannen420 This does not work, the errors "None of the selected elements can be added to this Option Set. The following warnings provide additional information." and "Elements that were already in a Design Option were selected. These will not be added to the Option Set." when attempting to uncheck the option set the element is in to return it to the main model.

 

Cut and paste is still the only way to remove elements from a design option set and return them to the main model when an option can't be accepted, which is undesirable since any tagging of the element will be lost.

Participant
Participant

Wow, 9 years old and still no fix.


If Autodesk spent as much time and money actually improving their products, documentation, and knowledge base as they do re-branding or re-pricing or other marketing tricks aimed at short-term stockholder gains, they might actually create brand loyalty instead of brand hostages.