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Rebar Shape Detail command

Rebar Shape Detail command is a very useful function that enables you to see exact dimensions and shape of any drawn rebar in 2D view. Unfortunately it is still not implemented in Revit.

 

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If you want to see more about this function take a look at YouTube video below:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K584pPpdg8k

 

 

 

 

 

Comentarios
Advisor
Advisor
This type of detailing is already available through Revit extensions like Graitec, Sofistik, and others. Sadly, not in Revit itself ... yet.
Anonymous

Hi Revit users,....feel free to give your kudos to support this feature!

 

Thanks!

Advisor
Advisor

I believe this is an absolute MUST! It would be the best Revit improvement since the creation of the rebar command.

Anonymous

That would be an awesome and useful feature. It's actually a common feature in other structural engineering applications. I have been trying with Dynamo for some time. I hope this gets implemented ASAP.

Advisor
Advisor
Vote up for this feature, folks! It's the only way to tell Autodesk how important this is! Better yet, Autodesk should buy such detailing software all-together. This feature was widely available in Advance Concrete. Don't understand why Autodesk closed AC without implementing this feature in Revit.
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

+1

Vote up for this feature, folks! It's the only way to tell Autodesk how important this is! Better yet, Autodesk should buy such detailing software all-together. This feature was widely available in Advance Concrete. Don't understand why Autodesk closed AC without implementing this feature in Revit.

Anonymous
Hi everyone,....vote up for this feature!
Anonymous

Hi everyone,....vote up for this feature!

Anonymous

I want this to. We really need this!

It's not that hard right?

Advisor
Advisor
I found a partial solution here: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/reinforcement-plans-rebar-presentation-and-sche.... I would still prefer a official (professional) solution from Autodesk. If regular users are able to do this much, i'm sure Autodesk can do (much) better.
Anonymous

We do need this

I think it's quite slow to update the new features that users really need

 

Some features can really help us out not to waste our time

Just like this one

Anonymous

I have a suspicion that these features won't be solved nor will they be implemented in Revit 2019. Autodesk is in serious partnership with Sofistik and this would mean sticking a knife in their partner's back. Although this would also prove Autodesk's dedication to it's customers.

Our voices should matter. It's a shame that they probably don't.
I hope I'm wrong about this.
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Revit 2019 is out. This feature is still unaccepted. How disappointed!

Anonymous

http://chang-soft.com/builderhub/

 

Guys check this web site

There are four videos and I'm sure you are gonna like this

I hope we can have this in Revit

Anonymous

Hi Autodesk developers! Is rebar shape command or something similar on your radar any time soon???

Anonymous

Hi,

 

I found this from GRAITEC!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=gP6sWrjpNJ4

 

Please Autodesk Revit developers, ....if 3rd party software firms can do this why are you waiting!!!

 

 

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Because GRAITEC is Autodesk's partner. If Autodesk does what GRAITEC has done, it will be lose - lose for them. Autodesk wastes time doing what their partner has done well, GRAITEC's features are then sold with Revit. Then users like us won't buy GRAITEC products.

Anonymous

We shouldn't need to buy Graitec products or Sofistik products or other tools. Revit is advertised as a complete package for BIM but without paid add-ons it doesn't get the job done. Right now I'm at least twice as fast with drawing the reinforcement plans with all possible detailing and schedules in Autocad then in Revit. Revit is far from ideal when it comes to reinforcement detailing, without add-ons it's impossible to make usable schedules. In my country (Serbia) the schedules need to have images of the rebars with dimensions for every segment, that's not possible in Revit.

Autodesk should be open and upfront tell the customers that Revit is just a half BIM tool and if they want the real thing then pay an extra 1000€/year.

Autodesk, think about your customers. Without satisfied customers the software will slowly die and your business with it. Customer always comes first, keep that in mind!

Anonymous

From my point of view Autodesk did a huge mistake discontinuing ASD and AC packages before making Revit fully "capable" for reinforcement design. Right now, drawing rebar in Revit consumes to much time compared to standard ACAD add-ons. Rebar schedules are only partially ok if you use standard shapes (with preset images), but when you have to draw custom stirrups or custom rebar forms than you are in trouble.

 

One other thing that's annoying me is wasting time to prepare rebar schedules for printing, especially when I have more than 500 different rebar numbers. Just imagine how much time is needed to setup 500+ rebar numbers on A4 sheets.....in Autodesk CAD add-ons it was automatically done.

 

 

 

 

 

Anonymous

...and one more thing...

 

If I pay for Revit licence and subscription than I want it fully functional. If Autodesk discontinues something that we used for years and suddenly says from now on you have to use Revit with half ACAD add-ons possibilities than it is just wrong.....

 

I do not want SOFISTIK, GRAITEC, etc. I just want what I paid for......REVIT.

 

 

 

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

They have many other features with higher priority: Cloud platform, how to improve/change the way people make things, marketing, etc. to achieve more customers. That's why many features in this Revit Ideas forum needed for real life projects are still ideas (some archived). And the roadmaps on their blog about enhancements, new features, etc. just don't hold any assurance to even exist in the next releases or roadmaps.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Duplicates with previous comment

Advisor
Advisor

@htlcnn: If i were Autodesk, my highest priority would be to make money. That means selling things that people desire. Nobody buys un-useful things. Rebar Shape Detail is a CRITICAL aspect of rebar fabrication and mounting in the right position. Misplaced rebars is the most common mistake on construction sites and the most time-consuming mistake to fix. Rebar Shape Detail is mandatory requirement for ALL construction projects in EU, Russia, China, South America. Basically, on 2/3 of this planet the rebar shape detail is required.

This extension: https://apps.autodesk.com/RVT/en/Detail/Index?id=8972329327921706347&appLang=en&os=Win64 costs 10 bucks !! How hard could be to implement it directly into Revit ?? The financial impact would be like 0.002%.

Anonymous
I tried that addon and while it works for standard shapes it can't draw
complex rebar shapes so it's far from ideal but a good start. Autodesk
should be ashamed that such a simple feature isn't implemented so far!
Anonymous

Hi,

 

it's a shame we have to ask for a standard feature like this. When I login Revit Ideas Forum and look at still "gathering support", just makes me cry.....

 

I also started another thread at the same time to try to enhance Revit rebar capabilities:

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/rebar-and-fabrics-schedule-like-sofistik-reinforcement/id...

 

So, if you want to support this too, please vote.....

 

 

PS: I wonder why there aren't more votes for this feature? Could be just few firms use Revit for rebar detalling so far?

 

 

 

 

 

Advisor
Advisor

@Anonymous: The truth is most people are afraid of creating/trying something new. They got accommodated doing things in certain ways and they resist to anything new (using the old stupid motif: why change it if it ain't broken?, why change it if it works?). People are doing Autocad,  Allplan, Tekla, even pencil drawing. People won't switch to Revit unless they are absolutely sure it's simpler and safer than anything else.

I hate when people tell me how easy is to "draw/model" reinforcement in Allplan. It actually is, but the project management is a nightmare, very complicated, like any german machinery.

I hate when people tell me how easy is to model reinforcement in Tekla. It may be, but the shop drawings are a nightmare, needing constant checking for misplaced dimensions, labels. Drawing layout is also kinda stupid. Export to dwg is very loose (no mtext, no dimension styles, no polylines, no hatches), just old dxf style (lines&dots).

I don't even want to start about Autocad. It's older than any BIM software.

Anonymous

@ovidiu_paunescu 

 

Hi Ovidiu,

 

is there a chance Revit will implement this tool any time soon? 

 

Regards!

 

Anonymous

Rebar shape detailing is really needed! it's exremely important. FFS R2020 is almost released and there's no trace of shape detailing!

Anonymous

Hi,

 

Revit 2020 is out there and this feature is still missing....:-(

 

...it's not even mentioned on Revits road map.....

 

Regards!

 

 

Anonymous
At this point it's just disappointing to see that Autodesk is pretending
that Revit is a full package out of the box and that there is no additional
functionality needed. They are making functions like free form rebar and
other unique cases. Rebar details and bending schedules are basic things
and should be provided in Revit from the start.
They should be ashamed.
Anonymous

Hi,

 

it's been more than two years that this post is active but nothing happened! Why is this so difficult to implement!? SOFISTIK which is a third party software has it........Autodesk Advance Structural Concrete had it in ACAD environment.....

 

Regards!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anonymous

Hi all again!

 

Yes, sofistik has it... probably that's why autodesk don't want to implement (?)

I really don't know why they don't make something for engineers... It's extremely needed...

 

I hope for the 2021 version...

I am kind disappointed by autodesk...

Anonymous

Probably is not that simple to do this feature, but is neither so difficolt to do a geometry extract of a reinforcement that could be taggable...

Anonymous

Hi,

 

it's been a while since I posted this topic. Does anyone know when topics from ideas forum get accepted or rejected?

 

Kind regards!

 

PS: One thing that I also posted on idea forum at the same time is this:

Rebar and Fabrics Schedule like SOFISTIK Reinforcement 

 

 

 

 

 

Advisor
Advisor

@Anonymous: When your idea is accepted, you'll see it in the Revit Roadmap: https://blogs.autodesk.com/revit/2019/08/23/revit-public-roadmap-august-2019/

But don't expect any miracles, as it is updated pretty rare. And nothing about v.2021 yet (as of march 2020).

Anonymous

@ipselute 

 

Thank you!

Anonymous

2021 and it's still without basic function..

Anonymous

It is really unfortunate this situation.
Sofistik is not a solution for complex structures.
Rebar shape detailing is essential in native revit

Anonymous

@Anonymous Totally true!

Advisor
Advisor

This looks like a temporary solution. Does anybody has it? Can anyone share this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjsw10VZEQ0

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

four years gone!!!!

Advisor
Advisor

Rebar should be listed under a basic shape which would be the family name (00, 15, 34, 35....) and then within that basic shape have a type which would automatically link to the mark or user specified number so that can be changed later if required. You should then be able to create legend view each used type of rebar.

@Anonymous

 I found this amazing plugin. It does exactly what we wanted. I tried it out and it works.

Have a look for yourself.

https://bimstudio.com.vn/app/f3b19254-7735-4b9a-86a6-329f314084a4

 

It's not a native Revit command but it does the trick. Hopefully Autodesk will add these useful features to future version of Revit.

El estado se ha cambiado a: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our Revit Public Roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

The Factory

Autodesk
Autodesk
El estado se ha cambiado a: Accepted
 

I hope this makes in 2024, as is pretty much a basic requirement for all the project in italy...

El estado se ha cambiado a: Implemented

Implemented

We are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit 2024! Thank you for your contribution to improving Revit!

Help | Bar Bending Details on Reinforcement Drawings | Autodesk

 

 -The Factory