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Crop region for drafting views

Please introduce a crop region for drafting views! 

 

I don't buy earlier comments and explanations for why this isn't already possible, many times we draw one detail and then need to show parts of these details on different sheets for presentation purposes...... it's stupid to suggest dividing these details up into several parts just to get them to fit on a sheet......

 

Further more when drawing 2D section details we need to have all the parts of the building present to refer to and for control and seeing that detail views don't have underlay/referencing functionality it is even more essential to have view cropping functionality.

 

I also sometimes use drafting views to create simple 2D presentations for things such as plot layouts, site plans etc. and these too need to be cropped regularly for presentation purposes, once again it is silly that we need to chop these drawings into bits just to get them on a sheet!

 

Once again please add this functionality.

 

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Advisor
Advisor

I would like to see a Crop Region for Drafting Views, but I'm not sure that all of your examples make sense? 18 have already voted for this, so I may be wrong (please clarify, if so).

 

Personally, I would like to see it to be able to control crop for a linked-in .dwg file (though it's been a while since I've needed that, and there's a WISH specifically related to it: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/preserving-x-clip-of-imported-dwg/idi-p/6470908)

 

Since you're mentioning putting one detail on multiple sheets, it sounds like you're also asking for the ability to make Dependent Views of Drafting Views (since while Legends can be put on multiple sheets, only Dependent Views can have the same content with different Crop Regions)? Could you show examples? Maybe a Screencast of the workflow? I'm not understanding your scenarios. Thanks.

 

Explorer
Explorer

Give us the ability to crop drafting views.

Anonymous

Agreed. This becomes more important when you have, say, breaklines in your views and the masking regions in them mask the next view that is on a sheet.

Advocate
Advocate

Great idea. Agree with @Anonymous, but one more thing. The extent of the view is driven by non graphical information. For instance the breakline. But also the Flip Controls within components. If a control is outside of the length of the element, it stretches the views ridiculously longer than necessary. View References is another issue. VR's have a hidden element (?) in them that forces the view to stretch longer than necessary. This is the same for legends.

 

Thank you for your consideration.

Anonymous

Agreed. Same issue with linked (or imported) DWG files. Some files have a point or some other element way out from what you're trying to view. That means you have to edit the DWG file and hopefully find the offending element.

 

Same issue also with images that would normally require a dependent view (think UL wall types/legend). But because drafting views can't be cropped, you have to use a dummy elevation or some other workaround.

Contributor
Contributor

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There is no crop view controls for any drafting views when importing multi AutoCAD drawings layout as single file into Revit as part of details, schematics or schedules.

 

Advocate
Advocate

I'd like to be able to crop a drafting view, simples.

Anonymous

To follow along this line... with this capability disable the relationship between the callout bubble view on a plan or section and the actual detail view.  Despise that the crop region on the detail view changed the bubble where it is called out.

 

Advisor
Advisor

@Anonymous You should probably post that as a separate idea. I somewhat disagree, BTW - just wish that it made more SENSE. Sometimes it adjusts (as desired), other times it doesn't, or adjusts when NOT wanted... doesn't seem to correlate with whether the cut's already adjusted or not, so it's hard to predict what will happen...

Anonymous

There is no option to crop a drafting view in case you want to split it up in several portions. 

Anonymous
What if I don’t search and still post ideas


Advisor
Advisor

"What if I don’t search and still post ideas"

Then each of the 5 different posts gets 20% of the votes, and the concept never gets the support it deserves.

 

Plus everyone else wastes their time reading (and responding to) the same thing over and over again.

Advisor
Advisor

@Anonymous wrote:

What if I don’t search and still post ideas


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Please review our Idea guidelines and best practices before posting a new idea, or voting on an existing one!

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Also, please try to not be rude.

Anonymous
It comes naturally when on the other side smb deserves it.


Advisor
Advisor

 Since when is "Please search" rude?

Advisor
Advisor

@dplumb_BWBR To clarify, my "please try to not be rude" was directed to @Anonymous's "What if I don't..." comment. (btw, the guidelines link also addresses the why).

 

@Anonymous smb?

Advisor
Advisor

@lionel.kai And mine was directed at his "somebody deserves it."

Autodesk
Autodesk

Guys, lets keep the comments focused at the topic at hand.  I think it goes without saying we would like people to search and add votes to existing ideas rather than creating a duplicate post that will later need to be merged, or worse not caught and then something people want to have voted up ends up with votes spread across 5 of the same idea.  Ideas with more votes do get more attention, even if it sometimes does not seem like we are looking at things.  :cara_guiñando_un_ojo:

 

Jeff Hanson

Revit UX

Advocate
Advocate

Please add the ability to crop drafting views.

 

How I would use this today:

We're late adopters of Revit, so I'm not sure if there's a better way, but this is the direction I'm headed in for our Code Summary sheets:

  • State supplied Code Summary is in Word
  • Save to pdf
  • Save to png
  • import images into drafting views and arrange on sheet
    • PROBLEM TO BE CORRECTED BY CROPPING DRAFTING VIEW
      • the file from Word, without editing in Photoshop, includes a white background, which will block out text in an adjacent drafting view  if they overlap. The ability to crop a drafting view would allow more consistent spacing on the sheet between the drafting views with the required code summary pages.
Advocate
Advocate

Hello @mmcintosh-ral,

 

If you want to bring in code summary sheets, you would be better off creating the sheets in Excel and then bringing in the sheets using Dynamo or a program designed to bring in Excel files, like Ideate Sticky. This way if you make changes to the Excel file, bringing in an updated copy would be easier and more consistent then saving to PDF and then PNG. 

 

Hope this helps

Advocate
Advocate
Thanks sashk- I'll look into that.
Anonymous

Parent / Dependent views for drafting views.

Anonymous

It seems odd to me that removing the crop ability from drafting views when you have the code in detail view is just trying to control how people use the program and removing flexibility. -off soapbox-

I have noticed that drafting views on a sheet have boxes that are much bigger than the drawing. I have checked the drawings to see if there is a hidden bit to delete, this did not solve anything. While the boxes do not show up on the prints it is obnoxious to end up selecting one view when trying to select another because of the overlap. Sending drawings back and forth is just a work around.

Advocate
Advocate

@Anonymous The original post is a request to add cropping ability to a drafting view.

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

3 years later. Still no progress. Seriously wtf. This is a super basic functionality request. I don't think it was specifically called out in the original request, but we NEED view breaks in drafting views if we cannot create artificial dimensions (or even if we can).

Anonymous

It's been over 3 years since this thread began and there is still no option to crop a drafting view. @loboarch , I appreciate your attempt to refocus the discussion back to the topic at hand but an actual solution would be more appreciated! The original post is up to almost 200 up votes. 

Advocate
Advocate

Another reason why this is often needed is if your drafting view contains a linked CAD drawing, or image and you don't want to display all of it. Currently there is no way to do this other than edit the source information before bringing it in to Revit, which is a real pain in terms of workflow.

 

It really doesn't make much sense not being able to crop a drafting view and I find the response from users less used to Revit than me who ask if you can is always the same... why? I think that's a pretty good indication that this should at least be thought about again, and if there is no really good reason why NOT to implement it, it should be implemented. 

Anonymous

I didn't read all posts but in revit 2018, once you enter drafting view as viewport on the sheet. 

 

Select viewport and go to modify-> size crop

 

You can enter how many inches you want to crop and whats offset from borderline of view. You can play with it and you can show details only you want to show on sheet.

 

Hope thats help! 

 

Anonymous

How in the world can 200 up votes and 3 years of time not result in adding this very simple feature? The Autodesk strategy is always distraction by condescending lectures about why some arcane limitation in Revit is 'for our own good.' One cannot imagine how addign a crop box to drafting views is either for a good reason, nor difficult to implement. Just give us what we want- your product is very expensive, it's very tedious for anyone with less 2-3 years experience. Every query into Revit begets 5-6 more queries just to understand the original query. A beginner like myself has  a hard time of even knowing what to google in the first place. 

Anonymous

And here enters 2020, still no cropped views for drafting views lol

Advocate
Advocate

:cara_de_apatía:

Anonymous

This was 4 years ago- still not a feature! And the Autodesk employee in this thread gives everyone a lecture on decorum and parliamentary procedure rather that address the fact that this very-simple-to-produce-function is something 236 people have up-voted has been ignored! This product costs thousands per year, per user. Where does the money go????? Typical Autodesk smoke and mirrors. 

Anonymous

I can't agree strongly enough.  Just when I start to enjoy Revit I stumble over one of these omissions that should have been obvious to anyone  who has ever drafted. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

Anonymous

I don't understand why drafting views cannot be cropped or why you wouldn't want this as an option. Why would anyone even argue against it. 

 

We use drafting views for typical details like door and window details so we can transfer them between projects and it saves a ton of time. However, I am always wasting time adjusting my detail components to fit in the view and its a frustrating waste of time that a crop region would fix. Just do it. Autodesk literally wasted their time creating a sketchy line filter, but no time to waste on the material browser, keynote manager, or drafting view crop regions.

Anonymous

Just entered today's date in a calculator--feature was requested 5 years, 1 month, 1 day ago. Not sure why further explanation is needed as to why this should be a basic feature included with a software package that spends millions of dollars on development annually. Please add crop to drafting views.

Contributor
Contributor

How is this still not incorporated???

Contributor
Contributor

Render images from a Revit model in Enscape. Save as jpg. Link images to Revit. Place images in drafting views. Place drafting views on sheets. Crop the drafting views for the final layout, since exact image cropping/sizing in enscape is often tricky or practically impossible. Print from Revit. Update geometry, render again in enscape, reload jpg in revit, print...

Explorer
Explorer

Please please please add the capability to crop drafting views.  I cant believe that this was not already added due to the HUGE detail elements that often come in.  almost every drafted detail now needs to be exploded and cut apart manually?  Welcome to AutoCAD 2000... 

Explorer
Explorer

It is now 2022 and we are still waiting for this feature?

Participant
Participant

The autocad/revit integration is really flawed and suboptimal so at this stage it seems to work the best to link PDFs rather than link/importing cads as long as that is properly configured. That way you can crop, you dont have to worry about line weights/styles etc. 

 

It is very odd to me that there is no way to import the ctb files or similar to revit so that we can, more easily, create rules that xxx color print specific colors. For example, if I have layer "WP_Furniture" in magenta in one file and do object styles to make it grey then I have to repeat the process if I import another file even if it the layer has the same name.

Community Visitor
Community Visitor

I know this is a common issue amongst most, Cropping drafting views, so only the relevant  content is only visible.

 

Usually I would try to avoid Drafting views and use live views but for the task it warrants the need for a drafting view.  

 

 

Participant
Participant

Wild idea... hear me out... maybe instead of policing decorum and procedure in the threads, Autodesk could just add the obviously needed features everyone is asking for. 

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

While it seems like this would be simple to do, it looks like it still hasn't been implemented. Added my vote.

Participant
Participant

Oh my god, there is always something like this with Revit isn't it? I have completed half of my workflow and now I realize that can't proceed because there is a simple expected functionality missing for whatever the hell reason. I can not crop a drafting view and thus, can not create detail cut-outs of the parts that I need. The only workaround I see is to create copies with detailing of these drafting views and mask the unnecessary parts of the family. Thanks for the pain in the rear, love the dedication to the torture for years without end, keep up the good work!

Participant
Participant

411 people have up voted this comment. Presumably many have added it to the "proper forum" for requesting new features. 6 years later - SIX!- and still not a function. This is why we choose to complain here. Revit is an absolute joke. 

Contributor
Contributor

Please use actual drafters to write/enhance/modify this program. The lack of crop capability for drafting views is audaciously pretentious. Any actual drafter can think of several reasons for this parameter and no valid reasons for its omission.  The ability to enhance, enlarge, drill down to narrow detail is the essence of what we do. Get off your high horse and get it done.

Mentor
Mentor

For MEP, we use drafting views for schematics.

So if we could create dependent views to split a large schematics would be a great feature!!

Explorer
Explorer

2024. We still can't crop Drafting Views.

 

Revit, please.

 

You need to listen to the people who pay you money.

You need to add features that MANY people have been asking for for MANY years, even if the developers personally have no use for cropping Drafting Views.

 

Being a subscription service and removing one-time-payments means the software needs to be periodically updated to justify the subscription platform.

 

You need a better solution for people transitioning from CAD.

Revit is COMPLETELY different and doesn't give you the freedom CAD does despite being under the same company umbrella, and you wonder why people still prefer CAD.

 

When someone creates a good Revit alternative, you better hope people want to stay with you.

The way you get people to stay is to make them happy.