Removed components that did not update

[ianposkitt]

I have modified  a sub assembly removing some instances of a component leaving other instances, updated and saved the sub assembly - all happy.

When I switched back to the the main assembly the usual yellow warning triangle appeared to the right of the save button, I clicked this to make the assembly update, instead I got the most unhelpful error message, words to this effect, Removed components that did not update,  roll back to before the item was removed and then get all latest button.

1. Why didn't the files update?
2. I don't know where to roll back to, the removal was not done in this assembly, the sub assembly where it was done had no errors and was saved.
3. where is the get all latest button?? is it the button where the yellow warning triangle appears? it doesn't say it is when I float the mouse over it.
4. why do we have to spend hours being stuck with what seems to be un-finished software when we should be being productive!!!!

I hope some one can help!

[TrippyLighting]

Can you share the design?

I've asked for some feedback from the developers in another place (Fusion Slack channel).

[ianposkitt]

I can if I know how to, is the main assembly enough? or do you require sub assemblies and parts?

[TrippyLighting]

If you export an assembly that includes linked components/assemblies Fusion will default to the .f3z file format.

That is a packed file that contains the assembly and all linked components (if there are any).

[ianposkitt]

Here is the exported file, I have edited some other parts since the problem occurred in an effort to keep doing something useful but the assembly has fallen apart even more. However the original problem still exists and concerns the capacitor bank assy in the main assy. I have used Remove to remove capacitor bank and then re inserted it but the problem still exists.

regards

Ian

[TrippyLighting]

There's some room for improvements in your workflow 😉

When using the move feature to copy/paste bodies, my recommendation would be to use the parametric versions of the translate/rotate move versions I circled in red:

Then you import and join two components/assemblies and decide you don't need them anymore in this sub-assembly.

Instead of removing them, I'd simply delete all that.

You also inserted them in the main assembly. When you make edits to the Capacitor bank assembly and save that file, not not only the main assemble needs to be updated, but also the main frame. So you'd have to go into the main frame and roll the timeline marker back to before the two remove features, update the assembly move the timeline marker back to the end and save the file.

Then you'd have to update the main assembly again and save it again. 

I would refrain from using the position capture feature for anything in your design!

Use joints exclusively to locate components.

[ianposkitt]

Thanks I'll look at that tomorrow, home time now. 

When you say don't use position capture, can I stop it from asking as it is annoying.  To me, coming from other 3D cad packages, a part (component) is either constrained in position or it is not.

I'm not sure what is meant by parametric versions of the tools? when a part is dragged in the rotate hoops and drag seem quite useful, should I not use them, i.e. drop the part where it is then use the other tools to manipulate the part or should I just use joint without putting the part some where near where I want it.  Moving it to approximately the right place makes it easier to visualise how to apply the joint.

Thanks Ian

[ianposkitt]

I have resolved the problems with the assemblies, I might have had to capacitor bank assembled with the frame as well as with the main assembly, my fault I think.

Referring to your advice about not allowing capture of position, I tried this but the part jumped back to an inconvenient position after I had just put it close to where it needed to be, just before adding a joint therefore making it harder to select the mating corners.

I don't understand  why you suggest not using the position capture, nor what it means. More to the point why is it there at all? one would hope that the part would stay where you put it until you fix it using joint. 

One of the major frustrations with Fusion is that it is frequently asking me (seemingly unnecessary) questions that I don't know the answer to. 

Thanks

Ian