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Reference (driven) dimensions-parameters -> usage changed after new update?

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Message 1 of 15
florens.gillner
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Reference (driven) dimensions-parameters -> usage changed after new update?

Hi there i am working since a couple of days with Fusion 360, and really love it!

 

I used the paramater-feature to configure my design in hight, width etc.

before the  new update i used the parameters of Reference (driven) dimensions to read out the values of different components of my design.

Now it seems like this usage is not possible anymore... I cant get the parameters which have values in parenthes into the cofiguration-tabel nor out again.

 

Or am I just stupid right now and forgot how I was doing it?

 

Best greetings

 

Florens 

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Message 2 of 15

Hi,

driven dimensions can only be used within a sketch, but not for other sketches or features like extrusion heights etc..
They can also not be used in configurations.

This is not new!

 

günther

Message 3 of 15

Hi günther,

well then it must have been a bug in my installation, becaus as seen in the picture, eg parameter BohrungSteherB1, is active in the configuration-table in the way as descriped. But since the update I don't get new ones in nor the old ones out!

 

Sure I use/create the driven dimensions in a sketch and the they get a value as a parameter. Which is documented and can be read out. Further I don'tmean for extrusion but more as a read out of the dimension of generated components...

Message 4 of 15

are you referring to the configuration table or the Parameters dialog?  I am not aware of any changes to Parameters in general that would cause driven dimension to not be available within the same sketch in the Parameters dialog.  There could be a restriction in the configurations table, I have not tested this myself.  Can you share the design?


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
Message 5 of 15

when you tell me how, i can share. 😉

 

refering to a combination of them. i create a "read-out sketch" with driven dimensions, make the parameter to favorits in the parameters dialog and check them or add them in the configuration table for read out.

Message 6 of 15

Hi,


@florens.gillner wrote:

when you tell me how, i can share. 😉

 



File > export > save as f3d on local drive  > attach to post.

 

günther

Message 7 of 15

that woud be to open...

Message 8 of 15
Christoph_360
in reply to: g-andresen

Hello

 


@g-andresenwrote:

Hi,

driven dimensions can only be used within a sketch, but not for other sketches or features like extrusion heights etc..
They can also not be used in configurations.


With the October Update, this should now be possible.

 

Christoph_Fusion360_0-1698861906449.png

 

 

Thanks

Christoph

Message 9 of 15
g-andresen
in reply to: Christoph_360

Hi,


@Christoph_360 wrote:

Hello

 


@g-andresenwrote:

Hi,

driven dimensions can only be used within a sketch, but not for other sketches or features like extrusion heights etc..
They can also not be used in configurations.


With the October Update, this should now be possible.

 

 


 

In sketches and features yes, but not in configurations!

 

günther

Message 10 of 15
Christoph_360
in reply to: g-andresen

Hello

 



@g-andresenwrote:

 

In sketches and features yes, but not in configurations!

Thank you for your reply.

 

For me, using Driven Dimensions in Configurations also works fine.

 

 

Thanks

Christoph

Message 11 of 15

With october release you can use driven parameters in expressions of other parameters outside the driven parameter's sketch.

The driven parameters themselves cannot be configured because they are driven by geometry.

But other parameters can now use driven parameters in their expressions, including configured parameters whose expressions are in the table.

If you do this in the configuration table, the value of an expression that directly or indirectly contains driven parameters can be previewed by clicking on the "fx", but this preview may not be accurate if the row is not currently active. However, the expression will be accurate when the row is activated.

Message 12 of 15

thanks for sharing the design, @florens.gillner - I think I understand the question now. 

 

It appears, in this design as if a driven parameter, which has been marked as a favorite, has been added as a column in the configuration table:

Screenshot 2023-11-01 at 3.44.45 PM.png

 

@kgrunawalt - it looks like this was a bug at some point, that is now fixed.  You should not be able to add driven dimensions as a column in a configuration.  By definition, config columns must be driving dimensions.  That is the whole point of configurations - changing a column value in a configuration should change the output, and driven dimensions should not be editable, whether in the Parameter dialog or in a config table.


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
Message 13 of 15

Thanks @jeff_strater for looking over and everybody for entering the conversation!

 

Okay WOW, then I have to say, I just walked over the first bug which played into my hands. Feels like one of those special moments in live! 🙂

 

That was indeed a pretty handy bug...

Sure I dont't need the driven parameters in the configurationtable to make changes with them. But it is nice to have them in one table as a collection of "points of interest".

 

In my case it is for exampel good to have, to see on one sight on what position the drillholes are sitting or what dimensions the panels of the cabinet need to have.

 

When I have a pole with a hinge in the middle I need to drill holes those drillholes travel due to the hight of the pole driven by the configured hight and position of the hinge.

 

1000mm

florensgillner_0-1698916116148.png

 

500mm

florensgillner_1-1698916418378.jpeg

 

So d10 & d11 change, this "travel" is trackable over those two driven dimensions.

 

As you mentioned Jeff, changing a column value in a configuration should change the output. Over the driven dimensions one is able to track those changes on specific components or elements. As a "read out" or let us call it query. Is there a other feature where I can collect mentioned information? Something like a Querytable or so.

 

sorry when I use wrong words-I am directly translating from the membrain, from german to english and it is my seconde week of medelling! 🙂  

 

Thanks for help and interest

 

best greetings

Message 14 of 15

Hi,

For such an application, I would only specify the height of the door in the configurations.
The calculation of the number of hinges is done with the IF statement in the parameter list, as well as the calculation of the distances between the hinges.

 

 

günther

Message 15 of 15

holy **** really greatfull for the if-hint @g-andresen! That will help me at one and the other point in my design.

 

But still that won't give me a table with the exact positions of drillings or the demension of all my panels, poles an othe materials, which I might even could get out of Fusion as a csv...

 

I am working on a master-file for diffrent shapes and size of cabinets. Where i would like to get specific informations (the driven dimensions or the output of the changing parameters) in one table for the different configurations.

 

Greetz

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