Please help with constraints. Having issues

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Please help with constraints. Having issues

rebeccah_luttrell
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Hi, I'm having issues moving a piece i made in a sketch to where i need it to be. I'm not too sure about how constraints work or the concept behind each button. 

I've made a little video showing what im trying to do, which is to make the two pieces touch. 

Any thoughts or ideas? 

https://youtu.be/jRsc1uGNvuY 

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jeff_strater
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If I understand what you are trying to do, I suspect that part of the problem is that you are missing a coincident constraint here:

Screen Shot 2022-02-11 at 4.49.33 PM.png

 

Anywhere you see a white dot like that, it usually means that those points are not constrained together.  That's why they "come apart" when you move them.

 

If you want the entire thing on the right to move together, you will have to add lots more constraints and dimensions, too.

 

Can you describe what you'd like the final result to look like?  Also, if you share your model, we can show you on your own model.


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rebeccah_luttrell
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Yes! That would be amazing if you would be willing to do that. 

Essentially i'll be building a small woodworking project for a synthesizer enclosure. What you see currently is the layout for the side panel with screw holes. There will be three of these units on top of eachother with different angles. But as you can tell I'm having troubles moving them, adding the proper constraints. 

I would absolutely love for you to look at the file and work your magic. If there's anyway I could learn from this that would be super appreciated. 

 

https://a360.co/3oIZ6tY

@jeff_strater 
P.s I've never tried this public link. 
Let me know your thoughts. 

Rebeccah 
www.synthwolf.com

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@rebeccah_luttrell - here is a start.  The technique I usually use is drag.  Just drag a sketch line/arc, and see what comes with it.  If you hit ESC, it will cancel the drag (or, if you forget, you can use undo).  So, find out what moves, and lock that down using dimensions or constraints.  In this screencast, I used only dimensions (except for the upper left corner, with the missing coincident constraint).  I tend to like Aligned dimensions, but others will work as well.

 

Once you can drag the entire shape, then you can dimension it to something else, and it will move as a group.  Hope this gets you started...

 


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rebeccah_luttrell
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you are amazing! Thank you so much! 

This is incredible. Learned more in this video than going through countless constraining videos on youtube! 

Thanks again @jeff_strater 

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rebeccah_luttrell
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https://youtu.be/o6Uj464Ont0

So I ran into a little situation. I'm pretty sure i did what you did. however it's like everytime i move a line its just copying it and making it all distorted. I attached a video. I hope you can see it. my recorded is acting funny because I switched monitors. 
What do you think is causing this?

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jeff_strater
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OK, I think I know what is going on here, after looking at your design again.  I just got lucky, and the part of the design that I modified did not have this problem.  But, everywhere else, you seem to have MANY copies of the geometry on top of each other.  You can tell this in two ways:

  1. you'll notice that the lines, and especially the profiles, are a little bit darker
  2. if you use Select Other (hold down left mouse button for 1/2 second) you can see the list of things under the cursor.  I counted 6 lines on this part of the sketch:

Screen Shot 2022-02-12 at 9.24.13 AM.png

So, when you are dimensioning, you are really only getting one of those 6 lines.

 

I understand how this probably came to be, and it is really a bad bit of UI in Fusion (one I have been trying to get elevated for a fix for years...).  If you use Copy/Paste, it is a two-step process when you Paste.  First, the sketch geometry is pasted, then the Move command is invoked on the copy.  Normally, you move the copy away.  But...  If you cancel at this point, you are only canceling the Move - the Paste has already happened.  So if you Copy/Paste/Cancel, each time that will leave another copy on top of the original.  Like I say... bad.  In the screencast below I demonstrate on a simple rectangle.  The first Paste, I move the geometry away.  On the second, I Cancel, and show that I now have 2 rectangles on top of each other...

 

as to what to do - you can either try to clean up the copies, or just get rid of all but one set (in the design you shared, the upper most copy has only one set of geometry), fully dimension that, and copy/paste that (without cancel), 3 or however many times you want for each copy

 


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