.ipt import doesn't convert to Fusion360 .f3d (or anything else)

[Doubletop_]

Fusion360, Personal

I'm logged in, have the desktop connector installed and have imported files into the desktop app. The files are available in my folders on the web pages. However, there is no evidence of any conversion taking place so I'm unable to edit the drawings.

I've tried this How to import or open a file in Autodesk Fusion 360 and it doesn't do what it says on the box.

No doubt something simple but it isn't apparent what it could be.

Pete

[g-andresen]

Hi,

 take a look here

günther

[Doubletop_]

Gunther

Thanks for the link but what is it I'm looking for? I was at that page when I changed licences, I have the new version of Fusion360 and a personal licence and I've logged in?

I'm not sure what it is you are telling me?

Pete

[g-andresen]

Hi,

with personal license it is not possible, as it is also said in the table

günther

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Doubletop_ wrote:

Thanks for the link but what is it I'm looking for?

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[Doubletop_]

Thanks for the info. I can't understand why Autodesk would wouldn't enable the import of files for their own products. It seems rediculous.

If a user had a body of work that they had produced in another Autodesk product, like Autocad and Inventor and their needs have now changed why are they now unable to import their work into the personal use version of Fusion360?

What scenario are Autodesk trying to avoid occuring?

Pete

[TheCADWhisperer]

Yes, everything in life should be free!

[Doubletop_]

I'm sorry but that is a very glib response. It is nothing to do with getting things for free.

There will be users who have ipt, iam and dwg files that could have only been produced in licenced versions of Autodesk products. They may well be students who have a body of work produced while studying. They are now not students and with the new Fusion360 licences their needs are now defined as personal use so why are they unable to migrate their files?

Pete

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Doubletop_ wrote:

They are now not students and with the new Fusion360 licences their needs are now defined as personal use so why are they unable to migrate their files.

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Students can convert *.ipt files to *.f3d

Reading the student license - it is for educational purposes only.

Nothing in student license about converting to personal or commercial use.

Even if a student purchases a commercial license - they must recreate all work they want as commercial, using commercial license.

I don't write the legal contracts - that is up to the lawyers.

[Doubletop_]

Of course, that’s what the licence says and what the product allows, but there must be a reason.

The scenario I have in mind are those that were, say, students, they have work they have done in the past as a student. It is their own work and they now wish to access that work and they only qualify for a Fusion 360 personal use licence. They now don’t have access to any other licenced version of Autocad, Inventor or Fusion360 to migrate their files.

It’s a perfectly valid scenario so I’m asking Autodesk for an explanation why personal users can’t do this. What are they trying to manage at the risk of driving these users to investigate other vendors’ products when they realise that they may have to start their work again.

Pete

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Doubletop_ wrote:

The scenario I have in mind are those that were, say, students, they have work they have done in the past as a student. It is their own work and they now wish to access that work...

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Student license is for learning purposes only.  

There are easy ways to get around that license stipulation, but I am not going to discuss as that is a violation of the student license.

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@Doubletop_ wrote:

They now don’t have access to any other licenced version of Autocad, Inventor or Fusion360 to migrate their files.

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Migrate student license files while a student for learning purposes only.

After learning and no longer qualify for a student license - start over on new valid license type using what was learned.

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@Doubletop_ wrote:

What are they trying to manage at the risk of driving these users to investigate other vendors’ products when they realize that they may do (my edit) have to start their work again.

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Name names.  What other CAD software student license permits learning use content to be converted under the terms of the license?

The learning is the value, the product, that the students get from access to reduced price or free software for learning purposes.  I am not a lawyer (and in all of my years here I have never seen an Autodesk lawyer respond to these types of discussion threads), but it is my understanding that any attempt at conversion is a violation of the license.  I can cite the portions of student licenses of various CAD softwares if someone with legal training will join this discussion.

[Doubletop_]

@TheCADWhisperer"The learning is the value, the product, that the students get from access to reduced price or free software for learning purposes."

I can see that. But the same goes for personal users so I can't see why they can't use components they have already created, even if it is only in some limited form, for example, not being able to edit the original component but they are able to re-use them in new assemblies?

Pete

[Doubletop_]

I've discovered that although the personal licence version ofFusion360 doesn't directly accept .ipt or .iam files it does accept them if they have been converted to .stp files. This means that the components previously created can be reused in new projects as the .stp files get converted to .f3d files. Just export the .ipt or .iam files from Inventor to .stp while you can. The only thing being 'lost' in the process is the ability to edit the original design, so if you want to change a component you have to re-draw it in Fusion 360. Although it is possible to add features (holes, extrusions etc) to the imported component.

Even the .iam files, once converted to .stp import with all the separate components included. You can then delete or add more components to the assembly.

It does beg the question why is it necessary to go around the houses to get to this state and not just have the back end converter do that to the conversion of the .ipt and .iam files to f3d? Probably we’ll never know the thinking behind this.

Pete

[Doubletop_ · Accepted solution]

I sort of answered my own question but it doesn't explain why the Inventor files cannot be imported into the personal version of Fusion 360 when it is possible to go around the houses and get the result anyway. I'll close the request

[Anonymous]

YES I AGREE . I was just booted out of a 3 year educational use of  inventor 2018 and have a lot of old files i would like to access. I am now retired and would like to continue my use of the files I created. I have never made a dime with the use of this program. They say they support the maker and hobbyist  but I think they are greedy liars.  I will be looking else where for my CAD needs.

[salajF338U]

Hello everyone from Slovakia!

For many years I have drawn in the teacher's version and created many models of small engines for students. Students also produced many parts during the practical exercise.
I ended my career (I'm 67 years old) and my status changed to retired and I also lost my Inventor license.
To my surprise, the hobby version of Fusion 360 does not recognize ipt files.
My work of many years is destroyed!
The students' demands are that I continue tutoring the creation of 3D models, but this is not possible because I am not an employee of the school.
For me, my job was everything and I lost everything overnight.

If I could go back years, I would definitely not be such an enthusiast for Autodesk products.

I apologize to everyone for the sad words.
Jozef S.