Incorrect spacing after certain letters in text

[cqualley]

I've noticed an issue that I'm try to nail down, which is very annoying. I'm noticing that F360 seems to be adding in an additional space after the letter "t" specifically on a wide variety of fonts. I've noticed that it seems to only be able to explode/extrude TT fonts, which is fine, but I'm still seeing an extra space after pretty much every script font that I have. I've attached an example, but I'm seeing this identical behavior on at least 5 different similar fonts that I've used, whether on path or straight. It's always adding the space behind the same character "t". Anyone else seeing this, any idea what the issue is?

[CGBenner]

So far, I can't seem to duplicate this with any of the included fonts.  If you're using a font you installed, can you share that here?

[cqualley]

Sure, the three example fonts are all from dafont.com. Here's one example:

https://www.dafont.com/autumn-5.font

[cqualley]

I've also tested it with about 5 other Envato Elements fonts that I'm happy to included as well: Chamelia, Shingitalis, Bloom, Clarkson, etc. I'm seeing identical results on every one. As I mentioned before, it seems to be only script fonts. The OTF version doesn't work at all, the TTF version is spacing after "t".

[jmackniak]

Spacing between letters is call "kerning."   I suggest that you look through the font settings for some sort of a kerning setting.  I am not sure if something exists in AutoCAD.

Or do the text n a different program and export the text in as .dxf

'Leading' is the space between lines of text.

[CGBenner]

@cqualley @jmackniak 

A quick Google on DaFonts brought up several of their own forum posts with people reporting kerning issues on the fonts.  Since these are free third party fonts from unknown developers, I'm afraid you might be getting what you paid for.  😁  Seriously though, from my brief research, I would agree that the kerning in the font itself is probably the problem.  Do none of the standard fonts give you the look that you want?

[jmackniak]

You can also make each letter a separate text box and position the individual letters around as needed.

[cqualley]

Sure, I understand kerning and leading, I've spent years in graphics design and web design before entering the 3D space. The issue is that there are no text adjustments in F360, and it seems to be handling the kerning differently than every other standard app, which is why I think it's a bug. I also understand that I can do the text design in another application, which I often times do. I use Illustrator often, as well as Affinity Designer, and multiple other Adobe apps. There are a couple of issues there. I then lose the ability to use the text paths in F360 and have to model the entire thing in another program, then import it in to F360. I'd prefer not to do that, although I have as a temporary fix on numerous occasions. My point is, if there is a feature, it should work properly, I should not have to rely on another program in order to use a functionality that should be present in F360.

[cqualley]

Sure, DaFonts is just one example, I use other non free fonts as well, same issue. I've tried 10 different script fonts with identical results. It's easy to just say that it's an issue with the font, but the spacing is interpreted differently in other standard vector applications, such as Illustrator or Affinity Designer. Here's an example of the exact same font in Affinity Designer.

Sure, kerning is probably the issue, but it's the way in which F360 handles the kerning, and the problem that there's no way to adjust it as there is in every other vector app. Also, as I otherwise posted, I'm aware that I can design it in another app, but the functionality exists in F360, so it should work properly. Also, designing in another vector app has another whole set of issues, one of which is the way in which F360 handles the imported files. It's not particularly easy manipulate the size and placement of imported graphics. The text is substantially easier to edit, adjust, move, etc. when used directly. Additionally, if I modify the graphic often (which I do, by changing the text), I have to reselect curves, relayout the placement of the graphics, and extrude the text manually every single time, which is very time consuming. If I use the text, I can just modify the text and F360 updates the extrusion.

[cqualley]

True, but that causes additional problems. First, it eliminates the functionality of text on a path. It's impossible to have multiple text instances on a path, so I'd have to create one path for every letter, which is nearly impossible. That was actually my first attempt, to make two words (with a break after the R) and manually place them together. Unfortunately, that's not possible in F360 the way it's setup.

Second, my entire purpose for this is to be able to change the text for multiple instances of the object. So, if I have 20 different names or whatever to put in, I can just update the text. Doing that on a letter by letter basis takes something that might take 5 minutes to something that might take an hour. I appreciate the suggestion though, but I'm just hoping that this is an issue that can be fixed or resolved in some way.

[cqualley]

Any word on this by chance after my replies? I was hoping to have a resolution to this issue asap. Thanks!