How to align grid and Origin?

[Anonymous]

I opened this model this morning and found that the model and the origin are aligned but the grid is skewed on the X plane. Everything was fine yesterday. How can I get this back to normal?

https://a360.co/2X5nUzU

Thanks,

Rick

[SolubleSpork]

Near the view cube in the top right of the window is a downward pointing arrow.  Clicking that brings up a menu where you can select "Reset Front" to bring your model back into being aligned with every axis.  You may need to update the sketches to adjust for the re-orientation.  Also, you can use the view cube to orient in a way that you would like to be your front view and then right click on the home symbol nearby and set current view as front.

[beananimal]

This does not work:

I have the same issue... 

Clicking a face on the view cube aligns the model correctly but the resulting "grid" is diagonal (almost like it got stuck to the ortho view. 

Clicking "sketch" on a top or bottom facing plane skews the whole model at an angle (as compared to the actual top or bottom view).

For the sake of trying to figure out what happened, I "undid" well into the model history where these issues where not present. Doing so DID NOT fix the alignment issue.

Moreover, sometimes a grid is visible, other times it is not, both in design view and in sketch view. 

Sometimes in sketch view the grid is only a tiny fraction of the model size. Sometimes it covers the whole screen.

I hate to be that guy - and I may be the one at fault for not doing things the "fusion 360 way" coming from Autocad and other platforms... but to me this feels like a flagship bug riddled mess. 

[TrippyLighting]

Can you share your model ?

[beananimal]

Sure - what is the preferred share method for help in these forums?

[TrippyLighting]

native .f3d format attached to the next post, or preferably the public link to it from the data panel.

[g-andresen]

Hi,

>2. proposal from @TrippyLighting 

günther

[beananimal]

A few notes:

1 - Using this on Mac OS Catalina
2 - There is no "share" in the right click menu on the data panel

3 - In the file icon drop-down "Public Link" in the Share menu is greyed out.

4 - Export does not show f3d, only f3z  - I am doing that, but it is taking forever to "translate" ... this is a XEON with 64GB of Ram and K4000 video

5 - clicking the file icon and "view details on web" allowed me to grab a sharing link
https://a360.co/2ObvB0W

Sorry for the frustration here, like i said, this could mostly be me, but I am frustrated. I have already had to uninstall and re-install due to constant crashes causing the Mac to lockup or kernal panic and reboot. Not sure if it was the file I was working on or Fusion itself.  So I started from Scratch on a clean install and here we are. 
 

[g-andresen]

Hi,

f3z is a project file which includes imported parts.

günther

[TrippyLighting]

Is there a reason you are not having the design history recorded (timeline) ?

Were you aware that this is not the recommended way to create parametric designs in Fusion 360 ?

Definitely not recommended for the first steps in Fusion 360.

Right the first sketch is not fully constrained and neither is the symmetry axis aligned with the origin.

What part are you sketching on where the grid Is not aligned with the origin ?

It might help if you create a screencast.

[beananimal]

I found some odd behaviors with the timeline - but in this case turned it off trying to resolve the issue with the sketch alignment. 

Everything was aligned as I built the model. I imported the casters from a vendor file. The steel profiles are imports were from a model I built. 

To be clear:  the model was not rotated, the grid simply does not line up with the origin, so when I click create a new sketch by clicking on any bottom or top face (xz axis) the sketch grid is at an angle to the model and origin. This just happened out of the blue - 

Not sure if this helps or not. But again, the entire model is aligned with the origin, but the grid is at an angle to the model and original when view from top or bottom. 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/aa59d9ba-b842-421d-bda4-9f4c1d3e4ffb

Also note (regardless of fixed or auto scaling) that the grid does not fit the model - sometimes it does, sometimes it does not in both design and sketch modes. 

[beananimal]

Okay - so here goes

I "fixed" the issue by simply deleting the (2) empty sketches that I created for the screen cast!  Now clicking a face on the xz axis creates a properly aligned sketch. Now clicking "look at" on any face, shows proper orientation and grid. Things are back to normal after simply deleting the 2 new sketches. 

This software is pretty cool, but the bugs and missing features are frustrating to say the least. 
I am somewhat shocked that there is no way to see progress or cancel exports and local rendering tasks. The grid display inconsistencies were frustrating, but this alignment issue was baffling. I still don't know what happened.

[TrippyLighting]

I had started writing a post but it seems you've already made up your mind.

What bugs do you propose to have come across and what features are you missing ?

The timeline in such a simple design is very unlikely to exhibit "odd"behavior.

[beananimal]

Thanks for the response:

I would certainly be open to what you had to say. My mind is not made up, I have simply become frustrated. I was okay until the grid/origin issue cropped up. I don't know what caused it, what was actually happening and why deleting the 2 new sketches "fixed" it. Timeline or no timeline. 

With the timeline enabled, I had several issues where reference errors were generated. Again, likely due to my not understanding the best workflow.

Bugs - I have stumbled in a few issues. The ones below are the most recent 
- Text not displaying in Catalina - Ariel font is no longer in the expected locations and have to be hacked into a non-standard library location to get Fusion to show them. Docs/KB still show Mojave and prior context.

- Ran into a problem creating threaded holes - found acknowledged bug in KB (can't find link right now) - yet to be fixed and not sure it matched exactly my issue. Looking back, my issue may have been related to this weird grid behavior. 

- Grid display problems on mac. Like I said, sometimes the grid shows up, other times it is only a tiny part of the screen, both in model and in sketch. Googled... found plenty of others pleading for help. I see this on this desktop and on a Macbook - both running Catalina.

Missing feature - my biggest gripe so far is that there is no way to view or cancel progress on a local render or export. Again, looking back, a problematic local render attempt is likely what was causing all the the crashing and kernal panic, but there is/was no way to know that the render was running, crapped out, or whatever, as there is no progress indicator. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and things appear to be stable now. 

Thank you again for your time and willingness to jump right in and help.

[TrippyLighting]

The reference errors in the timeline are almost the result of you deleting things when you should not have.

It helps to run Modify->Compute-all regularly to make sure the timeline is clean. Fix things immediately and use the undo button to get back to a stable state.

The text bug should like something that you should report in the Support forum or in this thread. If you can re-create and document it I'll tag someone from the Fusion 360 team to look at it.

The thread bug I cannot comment on, but I can confirm that bugs not are not fixed as quickly Is we'd hope for. A bug related to threads, however, has a higher likelihood to get fixed than a surfacing problem, for example.

The local render can be cancelled, but it is not obvious how to do that.

After the render has started you need to expand he render gallery by clicking on teh tiny (+) sign on the very bottom of the Viewport.

Then you have to click on the render , which brings up another UI with the ability to stop the render.

[Anonymous]

Did you ever find a fix? I too have the same problem; origin does not align to grid (or vice versa). The suggestion provided by SolubleSpork moved the alignment but did not place the origin on a grid intersection.

[beananimal]

NO – I never found a resolution, or for that matter an understanding of how things get out of whack to begin with.

I can tell you that this is only one of several other “irreversible” and “unexplainable” file problems that crop up. In every case, I have had to start over, as there is just no way to “go back”.

In fact – I fully stopped using the timeline feature due to my observation that it makes these weird irreversible (ironic?) file problems more frequent.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your response. When the origin pops out of alignment with the
grid it sure makes a mess of the design.

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I too have the same problem...

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File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here for diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Here it is, I hope. Never attached a file before.

Zoom in a lot and you will see the mis-align.