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How hard is it to fix these simple issues?!

Birk.Marold
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How hard is it to fix these simple issues?!

Birk.Marold
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These issues are persistent for years now. Respectfully, i see no reason for anybody to ever pay for a program where the company is unable to fix the most substantial bugs. Next chance i get i will switch to solidworks.

 

Grid is getting so dense the whole background becomes grey of course leading to stuttering and slow down.

 

 

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Sketching again totally misses the groundplane. Sketch had to be done 3 times till it finally found the set groundplane.

 

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No Image for that but also constantly the camera getting stuck so it needs to be reset.

 

These are not high tech features, these are the total basics of any 3d design or CAD tool.

 

 

 

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Birk.Marold
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Next thing:

 

trying to sketch with the snap or locking or however its called. nice thing to have the imaginary line there so that everything is accurate .....

 

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Only pretty useless if it snaps to the other line instead to the endpoint of the imaginary line crossing the real line.

 

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As you can see here:

 

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any a closeup here:

 

4. BirkMarold_3-1693916628416.png

 

The point it snapped to is far off the imaginary line i drew. 

This makes the whole stuff worthless and useless.

 

 

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TrippyLighting
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@Birk.Marold wrote:

 

 

These are not high tech features, these are the total basics of any 3d design or CAD tool.

 

 

 


I would agree that those aren't high-tech features. They don't get the visibility/priority, because for most people they aren't an issue, based on posts here on the forum.

 

For example I very rarely use a grid, or snapping in any CAD application because I find these "features" more distracting than helpful. Admittedly, I've worked with CAD for over 30 years and don't remember if I 'enjoyed" these features at the beginning.


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It could be that you have your Minor Snap settings on.  In the example shown below, I have a .25 inch major snap with 1/32 inch minor snaps between.  You are probably snapping to one of your minor snaps defined by your settings.

 

Snap Settings.jpg

 

 

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Birk.Marold
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iam not using the fixed size as this is useless when you design a whole machine instead of a single bolt.

 

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g-andresen
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Hi,

for more than 5 years I create my designs without grids.

This way I have a better control over the geometries and their positioning among each other, because I'm not irritated by any grids and rely only on dimensions and constraints.

 

 

günther

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Birk.Marold
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actually a nice idea. havernt thoguth of that. still no excuse for autodesk.
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Birk.Marold
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And it continues -.-

 

1. BirkMarold_0-1694003556117.png

 

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So what is the center point here now? yes in this case easy visible but there are a lot of situations where it isnt.

BTW. it is irrelevant if the grid is turned on or off.

 

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Sketch to grid is off, snap is off. If i cant draw lines manually then where is the actual point of using fusion 360 or any other autodesk tool? I can work more accurate and percise with blender or cinema 4d.

 

And yes it took me now almost 2 years to start posting these errors here thinking these things would surely soon be fixed coz when you are in the flow and have time pressure you just try to ignore it and try a way around it even though it constantly interrupts your flow or even leads to lengths being totally inaccurate. What iam working on needs to be accurate down to the micrometer and i constantly have to fight fusion360 to not **** that up.

 

 

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Birk.Marold
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nice...just finished the post and already the next thing:

 

1. BirkMarold_0-1694004671862.png

First of not sure what line is actually followed there coz there is not it could have attached to.
2.BirkMarold_1-1694004729391.png

 

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but what? wanting to attach the rectangle sketch to the top line...why does the whole rectangle and the lengths suddenly disappear?  what is that ?

xD and i cant even draw it ...wow after about 30 seconds now there actually appeared a error message for 2 secs or so in the right corner.

1. BirkMarold_3-1694004933400.png

 

2. BirkMarold_5-1694005066460.png

 

What is this crap!?

 

 

Like guys...iam not posting this only to rant about the constant frustration with your duck ups and inability to fix essential bugs. I really would wish you actually plug these holes coz at the moment i see no reason to stick with fusion360 in the future.

 

Also again appologies...after 2 years i just need to get that out.

 

 

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TrippyLighting
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@Birk.Marold wrote:

 

 

 

Like guys...iam not posting this only to rant about the constant frustration with your duck ups and inability to fix essential bugs. I really would wish you actually plug these holes coz at the moment i see no reason to stick with fusion360 in the future.

 

Also again appologies...after 2 years i just need to get that out.

 

 


Like, your post is like definitely a rant, like LOL

 

Honestly, if you want help, post a cohesive and concise explanation of what you want to design, what the overall goal is (model it, machine it, 3D print it etc.) .

 

Share the design file and perhaps even create a screen recording. As I've mentioned already the vast majority of users don't have these problems.

 

If you don't want help and blame an application that many user with no prior 3D modeling experience whatsoever have successfully used to create sophisticated designs and physical products, then go ahead ... but I am out. 


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Birk.Marold
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yes, surely i must be using fusion360 wrong so that i have different code running then everybody else and surely total newbies to 3d designing anything will post about such things instead of holding themselves accountable for the error.

 

I sadly cant share the files but that is also irrelavant as these bugs are persistent in every new created project.

 

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Birk.Marold
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after restart whops?

well the 2. point it wanted to attach to before the restart is gone ?

 

1.BirkMarold_0-1694007196191.png

 

and now one exists that wasnt there before?

 

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nothing changed other then restarting and thus reloading the project.

and no i checked, the point in image 2. it wants attach to isnt the imaginary line to the center of the circle to the right. 

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Birk.Marold
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-.- and this is what happens....

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Line on the right was supposed to be on the same hight then the one on the left.

That situation just happend, isnt staged...i just thought okay finish this **** sketch to position drill holes at the same position as on the left and wanted to place the rectangle point at the middle point of the line and clicked but it got attached somewhere else. When you are in the flow and the difference is so little you dont see it because of the diffrerence of the lines, you will not notice it until you start measuring every line manually later on. 

 

 

for context yes i can say what iam designing gets 3d printed first for prototyping and cncd later. as its a 3 axis sytem similar to a 3d printer or cnc only that the product shall be used in a clinical setting later...every µm is critical.

 

 

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Birk.Marold
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and the next one... I didnt double check when i finished the sketch mentioned before....

I selected the groundplane clicked sketch, clicked the element i wanted to have as groundplane again...did draw the sketch and wanted to place the drillholes just now...when i had to see that fusion again took the wrong groundplane.
Iam not 3d sketching here.

 

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the error is the sketch in the upper left, which should have been directly next to the sketch in the lower left.

 

The funny thing is...i didnt click "finish sketch" when i finished with the part that is in the upper left but moved to the area where the right sketched stuff is and did draw that. I didnt change the groundplane in between or changed the perspective of the camera, nothing.

 

and yes it never had been as worse as its now since the last updates.

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TrippyLighting
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@Birk.Marold wrote:

 

for context yes i can say what iam designing gets 3d printed first for prototyping and cncd later. as its a 3 axis sytem similar to a 3d printer or cnc only that the product shall be used in a clinical setting later...every µm is critical.

 


For context I have over 30 years of professional experience as a degreed engineer (mechatronics, masters) with CAD and other 3D modeling software. I've designed products, manufacturing processes and manufacturing equipment using CAD software. Stuff that has actually been made.

I've worked with Fusion 360 for 8 years, I still occasionally work with SolidWorks (day job, I've used it since 1998) and privately own and operate a license of ZW3D.

 

My suggestion would be to create a "dummy" project you can actually share and that exhibit the same problems.

The screenshots you have shared are of limited use to say the least.


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Birk.Marold
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see the difference?

 

zoomed in

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and here a quick exampe rectangle to show the scale. 

the distance between the real central point of the line to the non existing snap point is just 74,5 µm.

If you dont pay close attention constantly fusion360 constantly introduces these duck ups and you will not see them unless you zoom in deep or realize in the end that everything is off.

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Birk.Marold
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i will see if i have the time for that. its honestly hard to believe that iam the only one who runs into these issues and i would just really really be grateful if it just would get fixed.

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TrippyLighting
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It might actually be helpful if you can create a video of the design process.

I've created many screencasts using OBS Studio (FOSS and runs on Windows, Mac and Linux).


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Birk.Marold
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will look into that. as said once i have time for it.

 

 

next thing...

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part on the left is a simple 2mm thick plate. created from a rectangle sketch and extruded to become an object well of 2mm thickness. The plate further behind is the mirrored version of it and the feautures had been dissolved to have its own independend object. somehow fusion 360 did introduce a difference of 0.3µm regarding the position of the red marked surface.

 

and the next one didnt wait long... trying to set the drill holes now finally...

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whopsy daisy... this is utterly ridiculous...

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TrippyLighting
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@Birk.Marold wrote:

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the feautures had been dissolved...

 


Dissolving features only exists in direct modeling mode. Are you not using the timeline and Fusion 360's parametric mode ?

If so, why?


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