Help to find option or for the developer to change

dblackmanZ6YWY
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Help to find option or for the developer to change

dblackmanZ6YWY
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After teaching Fusion for 5 years we finally have solved the signing every students up issue. I teach over 300 kids and every year had to guide them through the process. Thank you developers

 

There are however 2 things that annoy the hell out of me. I am hoping there is an option to change it in the program or the developers can change it but what I will likely just get, is people trying to convince me these features are good! They might be for the advanced users but when teaching Fusion they are a right pain and after years of using fusion they dont help me at all. Here goes.

 

1. Why do sketches auto hide themselves after their first use. If I don't want to see a sketch let me hide it! This confusses new users no end. They draw they extrude and now their sketch has disappeared. So frustrating to asnwer this question over and over and over to then go back to my computer to demo something and waste time unhidding the sketch.

 

2. Why do new bodies alway want to join. It's easy to change 2 bodies to a join, but 1 join when it was ment to be a new body can be a nightmare. Then when you do remember to change it but then adjust the depth of the extrude fusion slyly changes it back to join again! Again this causes no end of trouble for new learners and just adds to the culture of ''Confussion 360 more like'' This is the going nick name for Fusion at my school.

 

I wish Fusion as a default didn't auto hide sketches and didn't try to guess if I want to cut or join, just have it always set to new body unless I choose otherwise and stop hidding my sketches please.

 

P.S Thank you for the great software, we use it alot and its great. 🙂 

 

Rant over!

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JeromeBriot
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@dblackmanZ6YWY wrote:

1. Why do sketches auto hide themselves after their first use.


Hello,

 

Go to "Preferences > General > Design" and uncheck "Auto hide sketch on feature creation".

 

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TrippyLighting
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@dblackmanZ6YWY wrote:

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2. Why do new bodies always want to join. .

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That has been asked before and never been addressed properly. However, this is only a problem when working with multi-body components.

So you might want to check whether workflows properly employ components.

 


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johan.rutgeerts
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When working with multi-body components, I find it good practice to:

 

  1. Insofar as possible: keep the bodies physically separated (e.g. a small gap between each body) so that they cannot join, and/or
  2. Hide the bodies you are not working on. Fusion 360 does not join extrusions with hidden bodies.

 

 

Regards,

Johan

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jeff_strater
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You have the answer on the sketches.  However, I'm interested in why you don't want the sketches to auto-hide.  I suspect that most users disagree with you on this (which is why the default is set to auto-hide), and I'd like to understand what is different about the workflows that you use that makes you want to keep sketches visible after they are consumed.  Most customers create single-purpose sketches.  I do realize that there are valid workflows (skeleton sketches) where a single sketch is consumed multiple times, but those tend to be more advanced workflows, which are not usually taught in beginning CAD classes.

 

Regarding the auto-join behavior in Extrude and others:  This was a design choice that we made, based on customer input.  Most features are meant to either join to an existing body or remove material from an existing body.  New Body workflows, for a sketch that is on a face of a body, are actually pretty rare, which is why this behavior exists.  I suspect if we removed this behavior, it would annoy more people than the existing behavior.  So, again, I'm interested in what workflows you use that ALWAYS want to default to New Body.

 


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johan.rutgeerts
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@jeff_strater wrote:

However, I'm interested in why you don't want the sketches to auto-hide.  [...] I do realize that there are valid workflows (skeleton sketches) where a single sketch is consumed multiple times

 

That is indeed the use case.

E.g. I create a single sketch:

johanrutgeerts_0-1651180381867.png

 

To extrude following geometry:

johanrutgeerts_1-1651180428191.png

 

It's open for debate whether this is 'best practice' or not, but for me it makes sense that all design info (e.g. pitch 25mm, gap of 0,5mm, etc) is combined as much as possible.

 

I am happy to have learnt that auto-hide can be disabled.

 

 

 

Regarding the auto-join behavior in Extrude and others:  This was a design choice that we made, based on customer input.  Most features are meant to either join to an existing body or remove material from an existing body.  New Body workflows, for a sketch that is on a face of a body, are actually pretty rare, which is why this behavior exists.  I suspect if we removed this behavior, it would annoy more people than the existing behavior.  So, again, I'm interested in what workflows you use that ALWAYS want to default to New Body.

 


I agree. 

 

 

Regards,

Johan

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