Flat pattern a spiral

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Flat pattern a spiral

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Is this possible?

 

I've found a way to do it on Inventor, but cannot seem to recreate it in Fusion 360.

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g-andresen
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Hi,

If you´re looking for:

flache Spirale.png

 

... Yes!

 

günther

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HughesTooling
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If you're after a sheet metal flat pattern, here's one way. I've used the edge of the surface rather than a projection  into a sketch as the surface edge has more accuracy. You need a small straight section at one end. See attached file.

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Here's another version with the short flat section at the inner end of the spiral. I found editing the spiral and setting the number of rotation to a half number would cause an error. Fusion flipped the side the short line section was on. Seems like editing the spiral is OK now as long as you don't flip its direction.

 

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Hi Both,

 

Thanks very much for your replies, but i think 'spiral' was probably the wrong term, its more of a flat coil. Please see the attached file.

I created this in inventor and imported it in. Inventor will flat pattern it, but I can't work out how to reproduce this in Fusion. 

 

Steve

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Design-mann2
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Hi! Thank you for the information. I've been working on trying to model a spiral sheet that can be flattened / unfold. Your example looked to work exactly like I need but I have trouble trying to repeat the process. I tried to go step by step according to your file, but I just cannot somehow replicate everything. For example, there is the step of extrude, and i see it has created just a thin extrude of the spiral. but even if I just try to edit the feature and deselect the profiles, and choosing the profile again, it makes a completely different feature with double walls, attached screenshot.

 

Then I tried to overcome this by using surface-delete-face, to remove the additional faces to make it look similar as the sample. and next trouble comes when I try to make the contour-flange, it just doesn't seem to work like in yours, and even when I combine then what I get there, it never allows to unfold the design. 

 

I couldn't find any tutorials online for this, could you please provide a bit more details how to do this, it is amazing that Fusion 360 has this possibility and just a pity that I cannot find out how to do it!

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HughesTooling
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@Design-mann2 First off, don't attach pictures, just paste them into the message or use the insert photos option.

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The problem is you have chaining enabled. Just unselect, uncheck chaining then reselect.

HughesTooling_1-1711189017665.png

 

Note. this is quite an old thread and this might now be easier using convert to sheet metal.

 

 

 

 

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Just experimented with the convert to sheet metal option but it doesn't work with the coils\spirals Fusion creates. The problem is Fusion creates coils with the end face on a plane parallel to the coil axis not perpendicular to the helix\spiral.

Here the white line is from the center of the spiral, the orange plane is perpendicular to the spiral. Because of this error it means the thickness of coils and spirals is always wrong, the end face measures 2.5mm but the actual cross section of the coil is only 2.498 mm and this problem gets worse the corser the pitch. So the method where you create a surface then thicken is the only way to create a sheet metal spiral in Fusion.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi Both,

 

Thanks very much for your replies, but i think 'spiral' was probably the wrong term, its more of a flat coil. Please see the attached file.

I created this in inventor and imported it in. Inventor will flat pattern it, but I can't work out how to reproduce this in Fusion. 

 

Steve


Bit of an old post I seem to have missed. You can not create a flat pattern of this part in Fusion as the surface is twisted not just a simple bend. If you don't have inventor to unwrap this part you can export a face as a mesh to meshmixer to unwrap. then export as a SVG and reimport into Fusion. Note the SVG will need scaling by 96/72 to get the correct size.

HughesTooling_0-1711191242897.png

 

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HughesTooling
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Just remembered Fusion now has a thin wall extrusion option in the Solid workspace that make this a bit easier.

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Attached is a new example using Thin Wall extrude then convert to sheet metal.

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Design-mann2
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Thank you so much, this solved the problem completely, it was easy! thank you!!!

 

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