Drawing: Detail view does NOT show the applied appearance textures!

[pj]

Another bug, I get crazy with. If you make your drawing and make a detailed view 1:1 view, all applied appearances to FACES DO NOT show. Instead only the physical material of the whole body is shown. Many may not need this feature. But as a furniture designer, this feature is essential. Furniture works with panels. But the furniture panels have different materials applied to faces. E.G. the physical base material is MDF (color brown). On both sides are Formica white applied (Color white). And on visible edges are green edge bending applied. See image. This is most common in furniture design. All faces of a panel (Body) may have different colors / materials / textures applied. Within drawings, it is necessary, to show the factory exactly, where they need apply which material. Now we make great effort to apply the correct materials to the faces. But when it comes to drawing, the standard views show it correct. But sometimes the details are small in relation to the whole cabinet. Then you need a detail view 1:1 to highlight exactly where the different materials applied to. Unfortunately Fusion then skips all appearances in this detail view. It is a pity. Why? When does future become more mature?

Here is the link to the public drawing: https://a360.co/31dVEtH 

[Phil.E]

I can't reproduce this bug in a simple model. Can you share your 3D design so I can see what's going on? I fully expect you should be able to do what you want here, I just need to see the design in 3D to figure it out.

Never mind, I got it. Thanks for the feedback, I can use it in a report.

[Phil.E]

A workaround that might help you for now...

Create a rendering of the detail and insert it into the drawing as an image.

[g-andresen]

Hi,

If you create the edges as bodies with real thickness, you get what you want.

günther

[Phil.E]

@g-andresen  Of course! Edge banding, even veneer is a physical object with it's own properties. If the model was made to include these things it would be more physically accurate and show up properly in drawings.

For instance. If you are making panels with 19mm MDF, any added material be it veneer, paint, powder coat, edge banding etc, will change the dimensions. That might be helpful for the drawing. In the end it's more work, but is more accurate. And you could measure the amount of material needed to produce the final result more accurately too.

That said, this is a bug and we'd like to fix it. No idea when that will be happening, sorry.

[g-andresen]

Hi Phil,

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@Phil.E wrote:

That said, this is a bug and we'd like to fix it. No idea when that will be happening, sorry.

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Here I contradict emphatically.
It honors you to speak of a software deficit if you didn't know the processes in furniture production. In the production of furniture parts, exactly these physical conditions are taken into account in the production planning. The formatting, edging and CNC processing, such as hardware and connection processing includes all physical things.
So it would be careless to leave physikal edges out of the construction and use a body with a non-existent thickness just for the sake of appearance.

günther

[Phil.E]

I understand and agree with you entirely. I think my reply says the same. I think the OP is more concerned with "design" than "manufacture". Chances are someone has to model the actual parts as you describe, somewhere, somehow, but it may not be the author of the OP.

I just meant to say that the exact problem with detail views and appearances is technically a bug, we take all customer reported bugs seriously and do not want anyone to think their voice is not heard.

[pickett_timothy]

Hi Phil,

I just ran into a very similar issue. I need the different faces to show up with their applied colors inorder to communicate effectively with our fabricators in China. Words don't work well across languages and google translate and we rely on dumbing down communications. 

I can pull a pdf into a graphics editor but still not able to get it exactly how i would like it.

Just checking in to see if there has been any progress on this bug. Need face appearances to show up in detail views in drawings.

Thanks! Fusion 360 is the best value out there of any other system. Everyday I am blown away with how feature packed it is for the price.

Thanks,

Tim

[Phil.E]

Thanks for the reminder. No update at this time. I have just updated the bug report with your comments.

At this time there are a couple options. Add a marked up image to the drawing, or use the web view of your design with markups. Like this: http://a360.co/1SnZZOE

(click the numbered bubble)

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[stumcconnel]

I'm also quite frequently running into this issue. Sometimes I can fiddle around with the size and position a little bit and the appearance / texture will show in the detail view, but many times that either doesn't work or the required adjustment is not suitable for the drawing. I've run into it again just now - it's subtle as the main drawing view is a greyish-white woven texture that doesn't show very well unless you zoom into the image, but the detail view appears flat grey, which I would assume is the default steel appearance.
Also, sometimes a matte-textured part will sometimes randomly appear glossy, as seen in the difference between the 2nd (glossy - incorrect) and 3rd (matte - correct) pics.

[Phil.E]

What build are you using, and can you please provide a design? I can't reproduce this with the designs I'm testing, so I need to know what OS you are using, and maybe try using your design file.

[stumcconnel]

Hi Phil, unfortunately the drawings are under NDA so I can't supply them. I just tried recreating a similar scenario, but of course it won't exhibit the same behaviour! Next time it occurs on a less sensitive document, I'll post it here.
FWIW, I'm on Windows 10 Pro, Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.
Cheers,
Stu