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CAM; Reversing tool side of parting tool (gang tooling)

Anonymous

CAM; Reversing tool side of parting tool (gang tooling)

Anonymous
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Hi guys, I am setting up a gang tool turning center and the cutoff tool is oriented on the opposite side of the spindle.  Fusion seems to assume a turret is always used.  Is there a way to work around this aside from inverting my X axis in the post for this operation?  If I change the tool orientation options, it still keeps it on the other side, it might even flip the tool correctly, but the cut starts from the opposite side. 

Parting tool opposite side machining.png20170721_102245.jpg

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innovatenate
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Autodesk Support

 

 

What Tool are you using? Is it right hand or left hand?

 

 




Nathan Chandler
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Anonymous
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I attached a picture of the actual tool on the gang plate. It's a rh tool meaning I will need to reverse spindle direction during part off.
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innovatenate
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Tool.gif

 

 

I mean what tool are you selecting in the turning profile command? See the above gif for clarification.

 

Does that help or am I missing something?




Nathan Chandler
Principal Specialist
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Anonymous
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That doesn't really flip the tool and only changes which face it's cutting on. I want to reverse the x axis coordinates so that it's cutting on the opposite side of the stock
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Anonymous
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When I was trying all of the various turrent orientations for the tool definition, I was able to get the tool in the correct orientation but it was on the wrong side still showing a collision with the part.
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innovatenate
Autodesk Support
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 Could you share the design and also include a marked up image of the issue  to highlight what the desired results might be?

 

It seems like you might be looking for a grooving tool but, I'm just not 100%.

 

Screen Shot 2017-07-21 at 6.44.41 PM.png

 

Is the below forum discussion similar to the issue you're having?
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-computer-aided/tool-orientation-cutting-direction-issues-w...

 

I hope these helps. Looking forward to figuring this one out.




Nathan Chandler
Principal Specialist
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Anonymous
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It is similar to the prior problem. I understand that we're essentially programming points in terms of whether tooltip or virtual intersection of the tool tip lies. But I have cycled through all of the various tool orientations and spindle directions and Still none "visulaize" correctly. What is Best way to share a design here?
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Anonymous
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I uploaded the archive.  Flipping the tool to LH only flips the holder. Still no luck moving it to the opposite side of the part.  I guess I will just swap the x axis manually.  Just seems like a short site on the part of the software as lower cost gang tool lathes are common.  Ultimately it would be nice to model all the tools to make sure the simulation for interference (among other tools) is avoided.    I know we can model vises and fixtures, but is there any way to apply a tool gang plate to the cam profile?

Thanks, Mike

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Anonymous
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This is the way I need the tool to be generated in the WCS, but the cam will not gen a toolpath.f360 turning issue screenshot 2.jpg

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Anonymous
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so...anyone.  I worked around it by reversing the axis travel in the G code, but why have cam if you have to tweak the output.  It seems that setting it as RH and clockwise rotation should work, but it doesn't.

Thanks, Mike

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DennisF44N9
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Has anyone figured this out. 

I have a lathe with a rear turret and all toolholders face up instead of down so you have to use LH toolholders. I can't seem to figure out how to get the tool to approach from the right side of the part

KW-SHRT-PLUNGER-BDY v2.png

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Anonymous
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The best solution has been to make a mirror setup and invert the tool path.  That is what I have to do for tools that I also orient on the LH side of the cutter plane.

Mike 

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DennisF44N9
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I'm trying to work my way away from Bobcad   but if I have to manually change Gcode to use a left hand tool cutter its not really worth it. My big lathe has all right hand tooling but the little one is all left hand.

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Anonymous
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There is no gcode modification required, I used to do this, but now I just add a pattern setup, within my other setup.  So you add it with the mirror on the XY plane and it mirrors the tool path.  It will simulate and post properly ( and show the tool properly).  Just make sure your rotation is defined correctly.  I can show you with a screen shot when I get to my system.

Mike

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DennisF44N9
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Mike,

Thank You! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best regards, 

Dennis

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russW4LXE
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Did anyone ever find a solution to this? I am starting my journey with a Sherline turn key system and hoping to use the gang tooling options on it. 

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seth.madore
Community Manager
Community Manager

@russW4LXE read this thread: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-manufacture/tool-path-will-not-generate-with-tool-orientat...


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing


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