Bug : Can't edit coincident sketch points

[tedbradley314]

see attached. two lines terminate at a projected circle center point. they are coincident. i'm editing the sketch. 

normally the coincident relationship icons appear so i can delete them so i can separate the line ends from the projected center point. no icons are appearing. i cannot move the line ends. 

[jeff_strater · Accepted solution]

your video was still processing, so I can't comment on it.  However, you can also click on the line near the endpoint and choose "Delete Coincident".  Just another way to do the same thing.

[tedbradley314]

thanks Jeff. 

your video is still processing but i'm guessing you're suggesting to use the "delete coincident" command in the right click menu. 

that is also not working for me.

see video.

hopefully i'm not missing something obvious...

thanks

[jeff_strater]

all the videos are still processing 🙂.  While we wait, can you share the model?

[tedbradley314]

Just DM'd you. Thanks

[jeff_strater · Accepted solution]

This is what I was referring to.  You right click on the line, not the point.  This was added specifically for cases where there are a lot of coincident constraints.

I don't know why the coincident constraints don't appear, but I have a theory:  as you see in the beginning of the video, there are five stacked points at this location.  I suspect, without having looked into it, that at least 3 of those are duplicated projected points.  Some of those points do have constraints to the adjacent lines, but some, I suspect are free-standing.  If one of those is on "top" (probably meaning, created most recently), that is the one that is asked "do you have any coincident constraints?".  And, so it answers "no", so nothing is shown.

There may be perfectly valid workflows that end up with these projected point stacks, but in general, you want to avoid them, for exactly this reason.  That is why I strongly recommend turning off "project edge on reference", and maybe even "auto project geometry on active sketch" (though I do keep that on).  Only project what you absolutely need into a sketch, and do it deliberately.

[jeff_strater]

oh, I looked a bit deeper, and there are 3 duplicate points because there are 3 duplicate projected circles:

definitely something to avoid.

[tedbradley314]

Thanks very much for your help, Jeff. 

Using the "Delete Coincident" command on the line solved my problem immediately.

I hear you on the 3x duplicated projected circles.

I'm not sure how that would have happened. Some of these models I'm working with I made years ago. 

I will experiment with turning off "project edge on reference".

In case someone does run into a situation like mine, with many points stacked on top of one another, I'm wondering if it could be helpful is there was a rotating "stack" of which point is surfaced to the top. So each time I click a stack of points, a new one is surfaced. That would have let me solve the issue with my "click and repeat" method that I was trying unsuccesfully in the video. Just and idea. 

Thanks,

Ted