Hole wizard improvments! or am I missing something?

[Anonymous]

Hi Guys and Girls,

I have been using fusion for some time now and are frustrated that the hole wizard seems to be incomplete.

1. You can create a number of hole types,

I generally have to create a basic hole and with thru holes I set the constraint to though all then I have to add a chamfer via the modify menu to the bottom face of the hole. why is there no function to do this with in the hole wizard?

2. Counter bored holes,

You can create a counter bore d hole thats great but you have to add chamfers thought the modify function again why cant this be done within the hole wizard?

3. Taped holes,

You can create taped holes no problem with a chamfer to the top of the hole but you have to add a chamfer to the bottom edge of a through taped hole, why cant this be done with in the hole wizard?

4. Counter sunk holes for counter sunk socket head cap screws.

When you create a counter sunk hole you set the size to suit the screw size being used but in some instances you want to set the depth of the hole deeper without making the major diameter of the counter sunk portion of the hole bigger than needed, the only way that I have been able to do this is to use the counter bore function and then modify to suit then manually add chamfers after hole is created.  

5. Advanced hole generation.

When creating parts that bolt together you can or have to create your hole to go through the part to be bolted (clearance hole of required type) in to the part to which the part is being bolted to, then you have to add a thread to the hole in the part that is needing to be taped again why cant this be done in the hole wizard?

6. Holes on the end face of a round part to create a PCD.

This seems to be only possible through the scetch and extrude method for when you try to do this with the hole wizard and you go to add a reference to the center point of the part the hole wizard snaps the hole to that point and does not allow yoou to set a dimension from the center point of the part.

Note these are common functions that are used in the design process not just by myself but in industry on the whole and should be standard functions of the hole wizard. 

[HughesTooling]

For the last problem you listed have you tried using point in a sketch? See attached file. Any time you have more than one hole in a face that uses the same parameter a sketch is probably the best way.

For you other ideas make a request on the ideastation, one idea per request. An option to chamfer both ends of through holes is a good idea. One problem with using sketch points for holes is if you need counterbores both ends of a hole you need a sketch both ends of the part. I have a request to improve that here.

Mark

[Anonymous]

Hi Mark,

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@HughesTooling wrote:

For the last problem you listed have you tried using point in a sketch? See attached file. Any time you have more than one hole in a face that uses the same parameter a sketch is probably the best way.

For you other ideas make a request on the ideastation, one idea per request. An option to chamfer both ends of through holes is a good idea. One problem with using sketch points for holes is if you need counterbores both ends of a hole you need a sketch both ends of the part. I have a request to improve that here.

Mark

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This is not the best solution as you are adding so much to the timeline by doing this.

There are so many tools that need to be added to the hole wizard it's not funny, aside from what I mentioned in regard to the PCD issue you can ref to an edge of a parts straight edge but not to the center of a round or center of a radius as the tool snaps to this position, if you can do one why not the other.

Then other tools for consideration would be coming from a CNC background,

1. Holes on line.

2. Holes on arc.

3. Holes on grid.

4. Holes on PCD.

Pretty standard stuff but you have create your hole then create a pattern, Then when you generate your G Code program all you get is a extremely long progam with each hole having it's direct coordinate rather than using the machine G Code for that function on a single line of programing code.

I had to make an injection plate that had over 1200 holes in it using a few tools and some pockets,

1.  Spot drill.

2.  6.8mm drill.

3.  M8 Tap

This was nearly 4000 lines of code and would not fit on to the machine control. I manually wrote the program with all but the starting position omitted for each tool of the drilling cycles and used the corosponding G34, G35 etc and made the program in about 400 lines of code without having to use subroutines for the drilling cycles.

For the pockets these were all the same size so I made a pocketing program for this as a subroutine using the following tools

1. A roughing endmill to hog out the bulk.

2. A finishing endmill to clean it up nice.

3. A chamfering tool to deburr all the edges.

All up the program was under 7k with the subs and when the sub routines were proven out away the machine went.

So tell me how this software is supposed to make things easier.

If I used the code as generated I would have been at the machine for days single blocking the program making sure the code was right and hoping that the DNC link didnt fail along the way as I went but I used the internal macros for this and was able to let the machine do the work after confirming the start position.

while it was doin this I was able to do other things.