Hinged door stops operating when add 3rd hinge

Hinged door stops operating when add 3rd hinge

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Hinged door stops operating when add 3rd hinge

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@jhackney1972 

 

Just when I thought I was understanding things, I decided to copy and paste new a 3rd hinge to test my understanding.  Everything works fine until I make the 2nd rigid as-built joint to fix the remaining hinge leaf to the cabinet.   Doing so seems to prevent the door from revolving.  The hinge itself works fine for the first two, upper and lower hinges.

 

 

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jhackney1972
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You are using As-Built Joints to attach each leaf of the hinge.  As-Built Joints apply, in this case a Rigid Joint, between the Origins of the two components.  This will not work in this case.  Take a look at my video and you will see I am using Joints, not As-Build Joints and placing in relation to the door and panel side using Joint Offsets.  The icons in the time line look different.

 

Two Types of Joints.jpg

 

 

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paulGJCBP
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OK. So from what you are saying, my use of the Align feature to place the hinge really doesn't help. One still needs to take measurements as you showed in the earlier video you sent to find particular snap points and offsets to use the regular Joint feature.  I thought the properly placed hinge and cabinet  side could be treated as two components of an as-built joint to rigidly connect them.  I didn't quite follow your comment about the joint being between the two origins. I must be missing a fundamental aspect of joint placement.

 

Thanks

 

Paul

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awilliamwright
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sorry, I misunderstood the question, but I can't figure out how to delete my reply. Just ignore me.

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TheCADWhisperer
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@jhackney1972 

Since these hinges do not have holes for mounting - I had a thought to Split Face at the mounting locations, but when I edited location of the rectangles for the Spit Faces, my Joints did not update properly.  Seems like this would be a logical equivalent of mounting holes.  Any thoughts on this strategy?

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jhackney1972
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I try what you suggested but instead of using a rectangle, for the Split Face command, I used a simple sketch line from top to bottom of the hinge.  This gave me the middle point for the Joint Origin, on the new face, to apply the Joint.  Updating of the sketch line location moved the hinge Joint without issue.  This seems like a extra step since the Joint Offset value works well.

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TheCADWhisperer
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@jhackney1972 wrote:

 This seems like a extra step since the Joint Offset value works well.


Yeah, I did that too, but I was trying to think of a way that makes it easier for a beginner to see.

My second thought was two circles with split face simulating equivalent of the usual hole mounting of hinges with fasteners even though these are glued without holes.

I'll have to experiment some more.

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