Exeption Error when trying to open a model

Exeption Error when trying to open a model

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Exeption Error when trying to open a model

Anonymous
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Directly after start, Fusion360 shows the models of the current project and an hourglass on the last model for an infinite time.

When trying to open the last model by double click, Fusion360 runs into an exeption error. (Error report

CER_168054641)

I can open any other model within the project.

The project or model is not shown under document recovery.

The exeption arises every time I try to start Fusion360.

 

Any idea how th recover the last model?

 

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paul.clauss
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Hi @Anonymous

 

Thanks for posting. The crash report you submitted shows that Fusion is crashing in the sketch module, so I wonder if the current version of the design has a sketch error that is causing this problem.

 

Can you open any previous versions of the design?

 

I'm happy to have a look at the file on my end - are you able to share it as a downloadable link? If you'd like to keep the design private feel free to send me a direct message. I'd also be curious to see if you can export the design in F3D format as a new copy from your Fusion data in a web browser (at myhub.autodesk360.com). If you are able to export the design from the web browser, it may help to export in STEP format - this will create a STEP format copy that will not include any sketch geometry, which may allow you to get the file opened in Fusion.

 

I would also like to see what you mean by "the hourglass" - it may be beneficial for you to record a screencast showing the case on your system.

 

I'd also be curious to know if the design is shown in your locally cached recovery documents, or in your local cache. To check your upload queue and local cache, please look for the F3D format copy of the file at the path below:

  •  C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Autodesk\Autodesk Fusion 360\<alphanumericID>\W.login\Q

If the problem file is shown there, can you copy the F3D file to a new local location and then upload it to the Fusion data panel as a new design? 

 

I hope this helps! If you continue to experience problems and are unable to open the file, please gather your diagnostic log files and attach them to this forum thread. We will also need to know the name of the file you are unable to open to continue troubleshooting.

 

 

 

 

 

Paul Clauss

Product Support Specialist




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Anonymous
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Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for your reply!
 

>>Can you open any previous versions of the design?

No, neither in Fusion360 locally nor on the web portal, which shows "Zugehörige Daten werden geladen" forever, which is something like "related data loading".

 

>> share it as a downloadable link? ... direct message.

Will do.

 

>> export the design in F3D format ... export in STEP format -

Download as Archive: works, but file open runs into same exception error.

Download as STEP: request was accepted online without error, but I never received an email with download link like I did for the archive.

 

>>"the hourglass"

See attachement jpg. It's not the mouse pointer, but some kind of F360's "busy"; running forever.

 

>> C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Autodesk\Autodesk Fusion 360\<alphanumericID>\W.login\Q

Folder is empty

 

>>

gather your diagnostic log files ... name of the file you are unable to open

attached, "X5S Montage"

 

Thanks!

Kind regards

 

Peter

 

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Anonymous
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Cannot mail the link.

Looks like I'm not allowed to send private messages. "limit exceeded" with just one private message.

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paul.clauss
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Hi @Anonymous

 

Hmm, that is strange. Feel free to email the link to me at [email protected].

 

Thanks!

Paul Clauss

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Anonymous
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Thanks, done.

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paul.clauss
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Hi @Anonymous

 

Thanks again for reaching out! I had a quick look at the logs and will be delving in deeper later this afternoon - please do email the file over when you get a chance.

 

The screenshot attached to your previous post indicates that this could be an issue with the upload queue - does working through the instructions at this article allow you to open the file?

 

I hope this helps and will reach out with any new information I have to share. 

Paul Clauss

Product Support Specialist




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Anonymous
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>>please do email the file over when you get a chance.

Which file? Logs are attached already.

 

>>does working through the instructions at this article allow you to open the file?

Workaround 1: Overwrite Queued Files in Offline Mode

 

Also having switched to offline mode, trying to open the model runs into exception error.

 

Workaround 2: Clear User Cache

 

Skipped, because I'm not able to save an archive without opening the model, do I?

If correct, by clearing the user cache I would possibly destroy the information I'm trying to recover.

 

Workaround 3: Manually clear out the upload Queue and upload meter

 

queue was empty (folder and xml)

 

deleting the jobs.json and the jobs.json.lck, then starting Fusion360 - leads to same error.

 

Edit: Paul, I will go offline for today (GMT+2) and have a look later tomorrow.
By the way: It's just a small newbie's hobby project, so no need to spend too much efforts. On the other hand I'd like to gain trust into Fusion360 and this cloud thing.   😉

 

 

 

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paul.clauss
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Hi @Anonymous

 

Thanks for the response. I think we double posted - I was referring to the logs you already attached in my previous post.

 

You can backup the local cache and any queued files by creating a copy of the Q-directory (see Workaround #3, step #2) and then clear the cache - you could then add the files from the backup Q-directory into the newly created Q-directory.

 

Well this may be a smaller project, I am curious what happened hear and will continue looking into it this afternoon - I'll post my findings here. It is unfortunate that these issues do occur and we appreciate you bringing this to our attention. When these issues are shared, we are able to research them in hopes of providing a long term solution in the future, so please don't hesitate to reach out with any problems.

Paul Clauss

Product Support Specialist




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paul.clauss
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Hi @Anonymous

 

I tried a variety of tricks with your file this afternoon and found that, whatever I did, Fusion crashed immediately after trying to open the file. My crash reports fell into the same bucket as your report, which leads me to believe we are experiencing the same problem.

 

Both our crash reports also reference the sketch module, which suggests that this issue may be due to corrupted sketch geometry. Exporting a STEP would allow us to create a copy of the file without any of the sketch geometry present, but none of the alternative file formats I have tried to download have sent the email - same as you described.

 

When you said "exception error", were you referring to Fusion 360 crashing and giving you the option to send in the error report mentioned in your first post?

 

While I've been unable to open the file on my end, I wonder if we can get a past version of the design open. Please take a note of which version is failing to open at this time and try to promote previous versions to the current version and open the file? The "related data loading" message you described earlier is usually only shown in the web browser - will the previous versions open in Fusion? Does the same crash occur when you try to do so? What if you promote the previous version through the web browser? My apologies if I misunderstood your previous post.

 

I wouldn't worry about clearing the local cache on your end as the file is crashing on my end as well.

 

As this is a repeatable crash, I've logged a ticket with our development team to investigate further (internal reference FUS-39299). I've also reached out to some other resources about the file itself to see if anyone else knows any tricks to get it opened. I'll keep you updated with any new information I have to share about all of this.

 

As a new user, I know that this experience does not help you gain trust the cloud. While these issues with data corruption do sometimes occur, they are unique and sporadic events - and there is often a way to recover the data, even if it is in a different format. This case is particularly unique because whatever is going on with the file appears to be preventing the translators from converting from Fusion native to other formats - either when opening the file in Fusion or converting the formats for download.

 

One of our developers was able to export a SAT format copy of your file from a debug build - I've emailed you that file.

 

Please let me know if you have any questions - I am happy to help.

Paul Clauss

Product Support Specialist




Message 11 of 12

Anonymous
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Hi Paul,

 

thanks a lot for your elaborate replies!

 

>>Post 9: clear the cache 

I have now cleared the cache, but when trying to open the model in question, I run into the same "A software problem has caused Fusion 360 to close unexpecttedly." error.

 

>>Post 10:When you said "exception error", were you referring to Fusion 360 crashing 

Yes, it is always the same errror. Sorry if I gave unclear desciptions.

 

>>Both our crash reports also reference the sketch module

By designing the model (3D printer print head mounts), I took severeal models from different sources (Hotend, nozzle, Fans and blowers). I imported no sketches.
The only point, that was strange in the history of "our" problem model: In one import there were several bodies. I was able to combine all these bodies except of one. When I tried to combine it to the mail body, it always resulted into two bodies again, Fusion360 obviously giving the name for the second one.

Anyhow. All sketches are created in this model file from scratch and are very basic. They might of course contain some weird newbie actions, an experieced user would not choose to take.

 

>>if we can get a past version of the design open.

I tried to promote an older Version in Fusion360 but was not even able to open the version list of the model in the first step without crashing Fusion.

When clicking the Version button in the portal it's "Zugehörige Daten werden geladen" (Loading related data) forever.

 

> I've logged a ticket with our development team 

I appreciate Autodesk beeing a company taking user problems serieously and having working processes. From my experience, that is not the case in all big IT companies today. Thanks for beeing quality oriented in this point.

 

>this experience does not help you gain trust the cloud. ... often a way to recover the data ...This case is particularly unique

I think, this is really a key problem and you're forestalling my thoughts:
When offered a versioning and a cloud repository I receive a loud and clear message: "This is modern times, you do not have to care about data security and integrity!"

One rare event of data loss then is enough to go old school again, exporting all versions worth keeping in some kind of open source data format locally and having it in the local backup routine. Why choosing a solition, that forces me into the cloud, when I do not need the collaboration features?

 

>>One of our developers was able to export a SAT format copy

Thanks for that! I'm able to open it and it helps starting over with this little project.

 

So, it's OK to close this thread.
Beeing active in the IT business myself, I would be happy to get a note about the end of the story sometimes in the future.

If your internal ticket needs some further details like the imported models, pls. let me know.

 

For now thanks for your detailed support, Paul!

 

Best regards

Peter

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Anonymous
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its also help me thanks for your Post

Trust Deed Expert

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