Creator Issue - Master

[Anonymous]

So I am just following up on a question.

I continue to get ignored.

My question is how does Autodesk protect information value for projects and gallery items.

As I am going on studies of resurrecting old techniques of building. And I prefer my projects staying under my supervision.

I have no reason for teaching the techniques, however I would like to use them in demonstrations samples.

I am not a teacher. 

This also applies to image sensitive gallery items too.

Let's face it people just can not avoid taking advantage of other's work. Obviously I am talking about stealing.

Also a complaint.

[jodom4]

Hi MrMiiner,

This page is your resource for security issues: https://www.autodesk.com/trust/overview

Our policy regarding the security of your ownership of projects, designs, and other assets within Fusion is linked on this page, and you can also report issues here.

Regarding the privacy policy on the Gallery, I'm reaching out to someone within the company who can better answer that question. Please check back later for an answer. 

- Jonathan

[Anonymous]

There is absolutely no reason for a community reply for the question, as much as I do appreciate it.

This post is intended for Autodesk, that is if they read.

[aaronkcap]

He works for Autodesk

[Anonymous]

I appreciate the gesture. But, I don't need a guy backing up a forum manager who works for the company. He only has 18 posts in 5 years.

[James.Youmatz]

Hi @Anonymous,

I'd like to jump in here. @jodom4 has answered the question as far as I see it however. Realistically if you have questions regarding cloud security and want the nitty gritty on how secure your data is over the internet/cloud, you need to read up on the legal documentation contained in that site. There are also contact information within that site in case you have more technical questions that need to be answered by our cloud securities team. This is the place to get the best, most descriptive answer regarding cloud securities (as the cloud in a whole for Autodesk is not just specific to Fusion).

Now, I think I can help you attack your second question regarding the Gallery however. I'm hoping you can help clarify a few things however. You ask "how" we protect gallery items. I am confused as to what you mean. As an end user, you manually submit a design to the gallery, it is then reviewed and if accepted, put onto the gallery for the entire internet to review. Optionally you can toggle on/off the option to download the file. In terms of security, it would fall back to the trust center in terms of our site securities, and how secure our websites are in whole. Now with that being said, it didn't really sound like that was what you were asking for - how secure/vulnerable our websites are to (for example) attacks etc. It sounded more along the lines of how we prohibit/regulate end users from conceptually stealing another users design from the gallery. Is this correct?

Although I cannot say for certain (Jon and myself have contacted the Gallery team for more information), but if you did not want a design to be conceptualized by another individual (perhaps NDA or other reasons), then why is it being submitted to the public Gallery for viewing in the first place. If this has happened to you in error, we can most certainly work on taking it down from the gallery.

We are here to help and I hope we can answer all your questions around this. I just need some clarity into some of the topics I bring up above. 

thanks,

[Anonymous]

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@James.Youmatzwrote:

Hi @Anonymous,

I'd like to jump in here. @jodom4 has answered the question as far as I see it however. Realistically if you have questions regarding cloud security and want the nitty gritty on how secure your data is over the internet/cloud, you need to read up on the legal documentation contained in that site. There are also contact information within that site in case you have more technical questions that need to be answered by our cloud securities team. This is the place to get the best, most descriptive answer regarding cloud securities (as the cloud in a whole for Autodesk is not just specific to Fusion).

Now, I think I can help you attack your second question regarding the Gallery however. I'm hoping you can help clarify a few things however. You ask "how" we protect gallery items. I am confused as to what you mean. As an end user, you manually submit a design to the gallery, it is then reviewed and if accepted, put onto the gallery for the entire internet to review. Optionally you can toggle on/off the option to download the file. In terms of security, it would fall back to the trust center in terms of our site securities, and how secure our websites are in whole. Now with that being said, it didn't really sound like that was what you were asking for - how secure/vulnerable our websites are to (for example) attacks etc. It sounded more along the lines of how we prohibit/regulate end users from conceptually stealing another users design from the gallery. Is this correct?

Although I cannot say for certain (Jon and myself have contacted the Gallery team for more information), but if you did not want a design to be conceptualized by another individual (perhaps NDA or other reasons), then why is it being submitted to the public Gallery for viewing in the first place. If this has happened to you in error, we can most certainly work on taking it down from the gallery.

We are here to help and I hope we can answer all your questions around this. I just need some clarity into some of the topics I bring up above. 

thanks,

Yes. Says stealing in the question.

The gallery items I noticed so far are getting used for non random reasons like a social sharing platform, others asking for downloads of files so they can use for their own work. Or, very often contain no actual educational or manufactured product. You know what I mean a finished product. I can look at the gallery items right now. A bunch of artwork, pictures of 3d art, parts of things that someone might consider a product and then actually something that will have to be refited or reviewed for markup and errors. That obviously does apply to 3d printing. It does however apply to actual manufacturing and engineering process and further to architecture, building, programming, etcetera.

From the rate of 0 to 10. I find the gallery usefull a 3. Someone actually shared an item that I would consider a product. As you can understand, or should understand would belong in the "Product" category. The ability to share items. Publicly that is. I know that I can just work on a network or just have a copy of a portfolio if I wanted. But, that just defeats the idea of a gallery. And, finally the gallery simply works without issues.

That's a list describing the 3 items that qualify and back the rating.

At this point in time I very often try to figure out if the so called staff is American, more importantly if the staff just speaks English. I have just stopped short of going back and reading my posts. I speak English.

The forum was created for the detailed issue information. The information I give is sufficient enough for a review or feedback. The only issue I have is the staff answering my issues with questions. Now, the questions are normal to be asked if there is just more information required. I just get the questions asking the same information listed in the original post. I am not prepared to be able to make a demonstration or a collage of informative displays with refernces. I can basically describe the issue with words.

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[TheCADWhisperer]

I speak English.

I write in English.

I teach a Writing Enriched class for designers (on Intellectual Property Law).  (Patents, Trademark, Copyright)

I am having great difficulty in interpreting your writing.

The highest paid writer in the world pays an editor to review her writing.

Do you have someone that you can ask to review and edit your problem(s) description(s)?

[Anonymous]

Anyway. The post doesn't have any intention to discuss the "safety" of the online data, per say. I can open servers to the cpu power if I really had that intention, you can't take that away.

What I am talking about is people downing my models and using them for their own work. Another thing I am not really concerned about is dangerous things that I might build for the reall world. Well, because if I build something incomplete or secret I have no intention of sharing important data anyway. But, still I have absolutely no reason for someone to conceptualize from me, otherwise I would just say that. I thought this common respect was just mutual. And obviously getting the conceptual idea to the point of copyright. I dare not to have to prove my ideas or concept for ownership. Tiny problems I already noticed is even having a photo or a model listed in the gallery is like a flutter brand new great idea all of a sudden. 'Why me?

I just want to make, share and forget. I don't need some thinking they are smarter than me with better ideals.

I just see a vague policy online to the point where I just, like always regret getting an account. If I make a detonation switch someone will jump off a cliff, be warned.

[Anonymous]

I don't really care. Right now I am just going to ignore the comment

the account that this original question in the post gets some attention. But, I am well over the age of taking kind jurisdiction of listening to advise and use it. To my advantage.

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[Anonymous]

Also getting back to the response link you originally sent me does not cover a single word of parenting.

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[TheCADWhisperer]

@Anonymous

It might be easier to communicate with geometry rather than mere words to illustrate the issue that you are experiencing.

Can you File>Export and then Attach the *.f3d file that exhibits the behavior that you describe?

[TrippyLighting]

IF you don't want your work to be public and don't want it to be downloaded, then don't post it in a public online gallery. That applies generally and not only to Autodesk software. There is also no need for an AD employee to answer that, because it really is common sense!

Your design data is accessible to you only. You have to use your Autodesk ID to log in and access it. While Fusion 360 data is stored in the Cloud, meaning on servers that are not located in your home/office/building it is stored on Amazon Servers protected by software algorithms and methods implemented by professional IT engineers that work for a professional business organization.

Whether that's safer than storing your data on your own servers/harddrives can be argued, but in most cases for individuals, storing data on your own hard drive is really not any safer, unless your computer really never connects to the internet. 

Also, if you don't want feedback from Forum/Community users then it is also probably a good idea not to post on a public community forum.

[Anonymous]

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I already see where this company is going by stealing other's people work. Spy behaviour. And disrespect in the public.

 If you have nothing relating to help with my issue stay out of this conversation.

I am going to mention last time. All of the information is already stated in my posts.

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[TrippyLighting · Accepted solution]

If you post images on a public gallery or on any other form of publicly available space either physical or digital, chances are that it get's stolen. So don't post it there. 

No company hosting these images on your behalf is going to send heir lawyers to protect your IP if you posted images on their public gallery. 

As it pertains to Fusion 360 particularly all data is hosted in the cloud on Amazon servers, as far as I understand. There are blog articles that describe the multiple layers of security in more detail. However, I don't think any company  would "guarantee" that your data is save there from all attacks.

In essence, if you are afraid that your data or intellectual property gets stolen, then don't host it online. I know of no company, except companies that specialize in security and securely hosting data that would make that guarantee. But you are or going to get that for $300 a month, or even for free!

I don't work for Autodesk or have any other affiliation with them other that I use one of their products, which is just one of many digital tools I use. I consider the safety of my IP as my personal responsibility and use my own judgement. Assume that they provide a statement that your data is safe and it gets stolen regardless.

For all practical purposes I don't have the means to pursue a $3 Billion company in court and win.

Also, no one has meant any disrespect to you.

No one is forcing you to use Fusion 360. If you have concerns, then simply use another product.

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[Discussion_Admin]

Everyone,

Please remember these are professional forums and as such deserve a professional decorum when participating.

Thanks
Discussion_Admin

[Anonymous]

I'm also just going to reply to the topic myself with a question. Why is it my crash reports always end up as the discussion for AI solution and latest AI explained forums? Do I look like AI? Instead of helping with the required drivers or fixes for the program it looks like the company is mastering ways to study peoples work using the help desk files. I don't agree with that and I will not argue about it for too long. Guess what the items that are available for download as samples are all failed Autodesk manufactured products, how is that for a solution. Where is the promised future of technology. This is an art company. And I know the thieving art world.