Copy a folder with parts and drawings (and make it reference the COPIED files)

Copy a folder with parts and drawings (and make it reference the COPIED files)

felipe_anton
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Copy a folder with parts and drawings (and make it reference the COPIED files)

felipe_anton
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Greetings! I have a folder with multiple files and drawings. There is one "main" 3D part and three other parts that reference this one with each one having it's own drawing file. When I copy the entire folder, everything references the file it's copied from (which I want to keep), not the copied one. For example, I have a folder called "X", I copy it and rename it to "Y", everything copied to "Y" references the main file from "X", not the main file from "Y" it was copied along with. Is there a way to workaround this issue? 

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HughesTooling
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Have you inserted the main 3d model into your other 3 designs? Not sure if this will work but if you right click the inserted component in the browser there is a Replaces Component option that should let you select the main design in the Y folder.

 

Mark

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gtprototype
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I have run into this problem with drawings multiple times with no solution thus far although, I'm not sure how to execute Mark's suggestion.  Perhaps it doesn't apply when there are no embedded components.

 

Here is the senario where I encounter the issue. 

I create a model and a drawing in folder A.

I create a second folder B and copy both the model and the drawing into it.

The associativity of the drawing in folder B remains with the model in folder A.

 

I keep bumping into this issue when I copy an individual part and drawing into a folder that is shared with a vendor for manufacturing.  They can open the model however, they can't open the drawing because they don't have permission for the originating folder.

 

Dale Speakes
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felipe_anton
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Hello, thanks for the info, but I have been unable to find said option at all, could you screenshot it? 

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felipe_anton
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That's exactly my issue, I wish there was a workaround for this (apart from drawing from scratch each time) 

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HughesTooling
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If you right click on the component in the browser there's an option to replace the component. You only get this option for linked components in a distributed design.

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Mark

 

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HughesTooling
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@gtprototype wrote:

I have run into this problem with drawings multiple times with no solution thus far although, I'm not sure how to execute Mark's suggestion.  Perhaps it doesn't apply when there are no embedded components.

 

Here is the senario where I encounter the issue. 

I create a model and a drawing in folder A.

I create a second folder B and copy both the model and the drawing into it.

The associativity of the drawing in folder B remains with the model in folder A.

 

I keep bumping into this issue when I copy an individual part and drawing into a folder that is shared with a vendor for manufacturing.  They can open the model however, they can't open the drawing because they don't have permission for the originating folder.

 


If you're working with just one design file and one drawing then you should be able to copy the design and get the option to copy the drawing that goes with it.

If I right click the design in the data panel and select copy I get the option to copy the drawing as well.

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Mark Hughes
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felipe_anton
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Thank you again! That's exactly where I searched after your first reply, my menu doesn't look the same at all, is there something I am missing? I'm sure I'm working on the latest version

 

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HughesTooling
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You've used derive not insert.

 

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Christoph_360
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Hello

 

If I want to move an assembly to a new folder, I use this approach, but I have no knowledge of the associated drawings.

 

 

Mfg

Christoph

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HughesTooling
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@Christoph_360 That will not work for this example because there are 3 assembly files using one source file. The only way to work around this would be to link all 3 assemblies into one design.

 

So you have design A inserted into B, C and D. What you'd need to do is make another file E and insert B, C and D, then you can download E and get the whole distributed design. But this will not copy any 2d drawings. One workaround would be to create your 2d drawings from design E then download the 2d drawing. I've done this and it does work but a real PITA!

 

Mark

 

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felipe_anton
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Thank you, I managed to figure it out, I was unaware about this simple difference. I'll try this approach on my daily work to see if it reduces the issue. I did some quick testing and think this almost it, I have a quick question regarding this method: Let's I have "file  X", inside this file I have components X1 and X2. When I insert it into a new file called Y, I want to insert just X2, not X1, how do I manage this? Do I have to disable X1 after inserting or can I do something that makes Y not reference X1 at all? 

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HughesTooling
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With insert you have to insert all components, one disadvantage compared to derive. Not sure if you can use Remove on a component in an inserted design. Usually I only insert designs with a single component so don't have anything I can test.

 

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felipe_anton
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That's another interesting way to approach it, thank you. 

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felipe_anton
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How do I get this "related drawings" prompt to appear? I read about it in one of the latest update posts but could not manage to figure it out, whenever I copy something, not thing of the sort appears

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CGBenner
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@felipe_anton @HughesTooling @Christoph_360 @gtprototype 

Hello everyone!  I noticed that there are several open questions in this thread.  Do we still need some answers to any of these, or are there some solutions that can be marked for future reference by others with the same issues?

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felipe_anton
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No solution consensus was properly found, just some workarounds, still can't get the "copy with drawings" option I asked about in my last post  

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