component sketches don't move with component
@pludikar wrote:
Hi Mark,
Many thanks for the link to Patrick Rainsberry's video and nesting script - I already knew about his dogbone script (credit should mostly go to Casey Rogers), but this was very helpful. The downside of the script, and hence back to the original discussion is that Patrick's nester script relies on planar joints between cabinet parts and the 4x8 (or whatever) stock. As you can't have a component joined to two separate components in different locations and orientations, it means you have to remove all the joints in the cabinet before using the nester.
This makes F360 unnecessarily cumbersome, and I don't think it needs to be that way.
Peter
There's talk of work going into nesting once sheetmetal has been released but we'll have to wait and see if it works for something like your cabinet making. Really what's needed is a nesting workspace where the joints from the model workspace are ignored and you're free to move and nest parts with effecting your assembly.
Mark
Mark Hughes
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Yes, that happens to me too. This is an ages old bug in the preview the Combine tool code.
This vid I made about a year ago shows the same effect at 2:18 minutes into the vid.
@jeff_strater is that actually a recognized bug ?
There are cases where the capture position function comes in handy, but for assembly work I rarely use it.
Sometimes if a model is a bit more complex when I want to assemble it (using joints) I don't get a good selection to pick for the joint origin. IN that case I move the component and capture the location, so I have access to the feature for selection the joint origin. Then however I often simply delete the capture position feature from the timeline. Once it's properly assemble I don't need that feature anymore.
I'd have to go through my models and find a good use case for the capture position feature.
As to your screencast:
1. Roll the timeline back to before the two capture position features.
2. Richt-click on the drawer assembly (component group) and apply a rigid group joint.
3. Move the timeline marker forward step bey step and see what happens.
In other words before moving the entire drawer assembly, you should have assembled it by some means.
Yeah, @TrippyLighting, we realize that requiring the Capture Position for a simple Joint is overkill. There are a very few, very corner cases where this is needed, but really, in 99% of the cases it is not necessary. We are planning to remove that. When that happens, you will be able to move components around, create a simple Joint, and not get the prompt to capture the position, and not have to go back and delete that feature from the timeline. Of course, for As-Built Joints, we absolutely need that Capture.
Jeff
Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
@jeff_strater wrote:
... We are planning to remove that....
Very cool! My post was not meant to criticize in case it came across like it. It really isn't that big of a deal.
@jeff_strater wrote:
... Of course, for As-Built Joints, we absolutely need that Capture.\
Yes, that is one very good use case to the capture position feature.
Also, it you want to use a rigid group joint on several components that are not designed in place or have been imported and use align to move them into place. Then you also need to capture the position before you use the rigid group joint.
no, @TrippyLighting I did not take it as criticism at all. Your post just reminded me that we have talked about fixing that one, because, while it is not a big deal, it is an annoyance that many people run into
Jeff
Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
@Cameron_Greatorex wrote:
..., and parametrically defined axes drift to new locations when components are added to assemblies when more than one copy of the component is present.
Huh ?
I work in assemblies wit thousands of components and that hasn't happened to me. Care to elaborate?
