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Manufacturing Model version stuck and does not update to Design model version

jjaskulowski
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Manufacturing Model version stuck and does not update to Design model version

jjaskulowski
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Participant

I've seen this thread https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-manufacture/issue-with-updating-design-model-in-manufactur... but there was no answer.

 

I've created a manufacturing model.

Then I went back to design model and modified a parameter from 9mm to 10mm

The design model has updated and my inspections show 10mm where it applied.

I even saved the design and it generated new version (v15) of my model.

Now when I'm back to manufacturing model, it is stuck on v14 and the my measurements tell 9mm in the same places where design already has 10mm.

I did not find a way to tell the manufacturing model to refresh to v15.

How do I do it?  

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seth.madore
Community Manager
Community Manager

Hmm, can you share your Fusion file?
File > Export > Save to local folder, return to thread and attach the .f3d file in your reply?


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
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jjaskulowski
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@seth.madore can we make this file private?

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jjaskulowski
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Participant

 Would it be possible that you access my repo directly @seth.madore or can you pm so that I can send you the file?

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seth.madore
Community Manager
Community Manager

Email me the link:

seth dot madore at autodesk  dot com

Make sure the link is set to Allow Downloading


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
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seth.madore
Community Manager
Community Manager

Discussing this with @jjaskulowski over email, there appeared to be a spot of lag between the model change and the MFG model change, and the issue cannot be reproduced :disappointed_face:


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
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CasettaMichael
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Advocate

I had the same problem what i found was i need to delete all in the mfg models folder i do not have a mic on my work computer but here is a screen cast https://autode.sk/3fNMfRY

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bjornGHC5U
Explorer
Explorer

I have the same problem. Changed model in design mode. But when going in to manufacture mode, the mfg model does not update to latest version. Even if I get the yellow sign that shows the model has updates. I get a question if I want to update. But the version of mfg model stayes out of sync.

 

Any solution? I really don't want to delete mfg model and start over.

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Fabbunny69
Advocate
Advocate

Hi All,

This is an interesting discussion because I understood the design model and the manufacturing model to be 'Mutually Exclusive', from Autodesk's public preview video.

Makes sense because the manufacturing model is something the programmer can hack and slash to aid with their machining strategies, could a design update link to a modified manufacturing model accurately?

 

 

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CasettaMichael
Advocate
Advocate

When this functions properly. you can update in design and the part will update in MFG. Then you can alter the MFG model. .. this is my understanding and in my process this is how it usually works. I do not do allot of MFG model changes , mostly delete sub-parts and arrange. I do not know of way around this glitch but delete the MFG model.. i do this as a last resort after  Clt b (rebuild) in design.. i would recommend creating a ticket so Autodesk can work on this issue   

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sibejanSJ
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Thanks, @CasettaMichael - Deleting all MFG content solved it for me as well... I'd consider this a bug.

sibejan - furniture designer
my CNC machine: Yeti Smartbench
(and still a rookie in Fusion as well as CAD CAM)
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alexanderhermann83
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Enthusiast

what is MFG??? and how I can delete it?

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CasettaMichael
Advocate
Advocate

MFG = manufacturing.  post is in reference to the creation of a MFG model and it getting stuck

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alexanderhermann83
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Enthusiast

ok, thanks

so the solution is to delete the Manufacturing Model?

 

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jmattson8WUR3
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Advocate

I had this issue with a few files in mid November. I exported the models as step files, and left my original fusion file alone. I uploaded the step files, started a new mfg setup, then it's just copy paste the operations, and reselect your contours,pockets etc... It was the fastest way I could think of getting code to my machines that day without messing around too much. 

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alexanderhermann83
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Enthusiast

@jmattson8WUR3 thanks for your detailed answer
This is not a good workaround for me because I have a lot of sketches in my Manufacturing Model and in this workflow I would loose them all

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jmattson8WUR3
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Advocate
That's a great point. I had not thought about that. Fortunately my parts were very simple at the time. I do not look forward to this happening with something more complex.
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soofle616
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Explorer

I know I'm reviving an old thread but having just run into this myself, I thought I'd post my fix that doesn't involve deleting mfg models and recreating all that work.

The background on my situation is that I have a fixture design in one file which includes all the machining operations needed to create it. In a separate file I inserted that design, along with the components and stock that the fixture will be used to make and all of the machining operations for the components. I made a change to the fixture design but did so from within the referencing file rather than the original WHILE the original file was open (I know, rookie mistake). This led to the original file not getting the updated geometry added even though it continued to be in the referencing file.

That proved an easy enough fix but then I realized my mfg models in the original file still showed the old fixture design with none of the changes. I fixed that by rolling the (now complete) history in the original file back several features in design view, then switching to manufacturing. That design rollback caused the manufacturing view to recalculate. Then back to design view, roll everything forward again, back to manufacturing, recalculates again and all my changes are there. 

Hope that helps someone else down the road.

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alexanderhermann83
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Enthusiast
Hi,

thanks a lot for the detailed workaround:thumbs_up:
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