Manual Inspection - Data Entry Question / Idea

[Sean3073]

We love fusion manual inspection, makes easy to read print outs along with prompting for next inspection. My question deals with the Aerospace Sector. Specifically, AS9100. In that accreditation / standard you are required to list by type and SN what took what measurement. For example, I used a 0-1" micrometer for one measurement, and the next I used a 0-6" caliper. That has to be annotated with every measurement. My question is, is there a way to do this in Fusion Manual Inspection? I am guessing not. Is there a way to get this in the product development if it's not already there? 

As it's currently being done, we have some semi complicated Excell workbooks that you put nominal measurements in, then what you actually measured, then a drop-down list with the tool that automatically populates, tool type and serial number.  I would love to integrate this into Fusion. Any ideas out there on this subject?

[ReactiveTools]

@Sean3073 I just ran accross this post looking for some other information on the manual inspections function and I think a good way to handle this is by adding the tool ID or information in the description.  There was a good youtube video I saw who recommended this. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLMZ7_ex7WA

[Sean3073]

I appreciate the info and link. I am familiar you can place the tool and the SN in the inspection block, but the number of inspections we do it becomes quite cumbersome typing tool type make model and serial number to each measurement. Our current system, it's just a drop-down window, you can select the tool and it automatically populates the SN, which is linked in the background to calibration traceability for AS9100 purposes. Honestly if I was king for a day, I would have fusion have the same thing they have as a tool library, you just one time enter all the data and now it's just a selectable tool with all the sub data if that makes sense. On a side note and slightly off subject, as soon as the Federal Government flips the switch on CMMC, fusion is going to be a moot point as everyone operating in the category will have to quit Autodesk due to non-compliance. All in all, I love Fusion and the community, so many people helping each other. Sean

[ReactiveTools]

Interesting.  And good feedback for the inspection.  I have just started to look at this in Fusion instead of using a separate bubbling software, but it is still lacking.  Surely has potential, but still a way to go.

And this is a bit shocking to hear about CMMC...did a little research and doesn't look like Fusion has any concrete plans that I can find to certify compliance...maybe losing some users from this.

We will see.

[CGBenner]

@seth.madore Do you know who might be able to comment on this CMMC?

[seth.madore · Accepted solution]

Regarding the original request; this is not possible in Fusion, nor are there active plans to make improvements upon what we already have.

Regarding CMMC, how is this any different (in terms of compliance and Fusion) than the last 10 years of folks asking for ITAR support? As we aren't ITAR certified and almost all gov't work requires ITAR, is it your understanding that CMMC goes even further?

[Sean3073]

Seth, I am going to do my best to answer you in two parts. Regarding ITAR, I don't know too much about it. If I was to guess on that, folks who are claiming to be ITAR compliant and use 360 at the same time are breaking the law. I honestly have not looked into it nor crossed that bridge yet so I could be wrong. To answer CMMC. This is a little wonky thanks to the Federal Government. First you have to kind of understand the history of it, of which I am a little fuzzy on it. Put simply, this is a data storage and protection set of rules. Most of us don't know which set of rules the Government is going to pick. Mainly and my concern, the Federal Government is going to mandate implementation of CMMC in regard to contractors manufacturing their parts and I am sure it goes quite a bit further as in storage of data regardless of if you are a parts manufacturer or its just something intellectual. Put simply it's security of data, meaning no cloud storage that is not certified CMMC. This is where Fusion falls in. There are a few things to note. There are levels and complexities associated with those levels of CMMC. Currently the Federal Government has yet to say which one. It should also be noted that they have been saying this is going to go into effect for roughly 2 years now. My guess, and many of my colleges think the reason for this is they have recognized as soon as they flip the proverbial switch, they are going to lose roughly 1/2 of their supply chain and vendors. Fusion falls into this category. I also think that some very large players, (Boeing, L/M, L3-Harris, Bell Textron ect...) have huge data infrastructures that would also need revamping and they are the ones putting the brakes on CMMC while they figure things out. This is a guess though. I also know first hand from some of the big league guys that they require it, so no Fusion use there or put a different way, Fusion user's can't do business in those requirements. Finally you asked if CMMC goes further. I believe it to be different V's ITAR with some overlap in requirements. I honestly don't know. I am thinking that ITAR's primary focus is weapons, and CMMC blankets all data. What I can tell you for a fact is, when that switch flips, I am dropping Fusion to remain compliant. I don't mean to sound harsh on this, but for those whom are going to try and "Cheat" the system and continue to use fusion is a huge risk with some serious federal penalties. If I were to speculate, when CMMC goes into effect, some auditors (DLA and DoD) are going to immediately catch some of the cheaters and it's going to role down hill as they start going after Autodesk for data breaches in the context that Autodesk is housing non-compliant data. I don't have a crystal ball but my guess is when CMMC happens fusion is going to take a noticeable hit and within a year they are going to have some government mandates regarding there customers breaching compliance. Hope this clears things up. Sean

[seth.madore]

@Sean3073 thanks for sharing your views on this. I do know that cloud security and gov't compliance is something we are very much concerned with. I think I saw something a few weeks ago about Autodesk becoming Fedramp certified, which I would imagine is one of the first steps to take.

I was at IMTS all last week, there were more than a few questions asked by customers in this domain... 👀 

[CGBenner]

@ReactiveTools @Sean3073 @seth.madore 

Hi all.  I've marked Seth's response above as "A" solution, since it answered the original question.  Please keep the discussion going regarding the gov't compliance issues, while we may never reach a "solution", the information could be useful to others both inside and outside of Autodesk.  Thanks all!!