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Horizontal VS Flat toolpath. Are you still using Horizontal and why ?

kieran.gill
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Horizontal VS Flat toolpath. Are you still using Horizontal and why ?

kieran.gill
Autodesk
Autodesk

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For those of you that are using the Horizontal Strategy, can you share why you are still using it?
We introduced the Flat Strategy a while ago now, so I would be interested to hear if you are still using the Horizontal Strategy and for what reason. All feedback welcome



Kieran Gill
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HughesTooling
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@kieran.gill wrote:


Images below show Inside-Out with and without Optimized Open Pocket machining

Inside_Out_FLAT.PNGInside_Out_FLAT2.PNG


Sorry. I missed this post. Looking at both of those toolpaths, they are both quite bad! In both the outer pass would be cutting air as the previous pass would have removed all the material.

 

Anything outside this pass is not going to cut anything.

HughesTooling_1-1682515681120.png

 

 

@kieran.gill Not sure who your last post was to or about, was it this and the outside in problem?

 

Thanks Mark

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FrodoLoggins
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Inconsistent spacing between stepovers:

Screenshot 2023-07-21 at 3.16.27 PM.png

 

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Stepover spacing was more consistent this morning, didn't change anything not sure what changed.

 

Screenshot 2023-07-21 at 3.21.23 PM.png

 

Also the tool is a ballnose; Hopefully smoothing offsets and cleaning up cusps at junctions aren't features locked behind strategies that cost Flex tokens like S&S.

 

Also no "Minimum Cutting Radius" setting.

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leo.castellon
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On my part, I at first used horizontal but was having an issue with a projecting rib width being undersized.  The view shown was first cleared out using 3d adaptive, then finished with horizontal. With horizontal, there wasn't an option for finishing passes. I then used flat and used finishing passes, but that did not allow me to turn on cutter comp, I have no way to adjust the width of the protruding boss. I ended up adding an additional contour pass to control the width of the boss. It would be nice to be able to turn on cutter comp on the flat operations page to save time. 

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Thanks, LeoC

 

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RandyY98W5
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Flat has entirely replaced Horizontal for me. The ability to add finishing passes without a separate 2D contour operation, as well as the path starting from outside the part and working in. My computer is powerful enough that I don't notice a huge difference in generation time. Flat also cleans up material in certain edge cases where Horizontal doesn't, like this example (the tolerance is set to .001" in both screenshots):

First horizontal:

Screenshot 2023-08-15 154903.png

Now Flat:

Screenshot 2023-08-15 154856.png

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bostoshx
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Forod's Options that would be nice:

These "suggestions" are already incorporated into (can i dare say the word?) Mcam.

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eerier_bleach0f
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nubrandao
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One thing i noticed,since Im still using powermill is that the toolpath are  still similary. For example, In Fusion , horizontal behaves exactly offset plane In powermill.... In flat, looks similar to raster plane. I usually when machining In Fusion, i try both and seems to give better result. One thing i like In horizontal is that ONLY works In perpendicular planes.... But In flat,if i have a surface with some degree like 0.005 , i still can machine bye increasing the tolerante, In flat i cant do that.
 
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