Announcements
Attention for Customers without Multi-Factor Authentication or Single Sign-On - OTP Verification rolls out April 2025. Read all about it here.

From model to real body... The differences

eric.thepaut3
Advocate

From model to real body... The differences

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

Hello,

i have finished the milling of my guitar body without offset (maybe 0.1 or 0.2) between front and back sides. But there are some surprises i don't understand. 

First the filet on the outside contour are not well done, one the front side it's not awful but it's not a filet.

And there is a notch on the neck joint and a reverse filet that should not be there.

My file https://a360.co/3nKYFfA

A shot of the notch on fusion 

And some pictures

0 Likes
Reply
826 Views
14 Replies
Replies (14)

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

ded

0 Likes

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

The biggest problem is the notch and reverse filet on the neck joint? Why? 

Thank you for spending time for me...

0 Likes

anthony.a.douglas
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

it is not clear what you are asking.  It sounds like the model did not turn out the same as in the simulation.  Try a gcode simulator like hsmsimul to see if the gcode is the problem.

0 Likes

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

The notch in the neck joint is in the simulation, you can see it on the screen shot. But i don't understand why. I was focused on the offset face/back.

It is not in the model. 

For the filets, i don't see the issue in the simulation...

 

And about simulations of 3D operations, they make almost always crash fusion on my computer...It's new but true...

0 Likes

johnswetz1982
Advisor
Advisor

In regards to crashing your computer, do you have the latest video drivers for you graphics card?

0 Likes

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

I don't know actually. It's an old macbook pro with 16GB. Where can i see that?

0 Likes

michael.grenier4GVTU
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi,

 

First of all, I think the problem with the notch is simply because of your contour selection that uses the inside curve of the undercut so it cuts all of that material that should not.  As far as the radius you are talking about, those seems like your ballnose either started too deep or your top facing toolpath left too much material.  Could simply be a matter of wrong tool offset on the machine.  I also noticed your are only machining about half of the radius all around the model which explains why you also see a concave radius at the bottom of your fillet.  Your toolpath is not going deep enough.  You should try adding an additional Offset to your boundary.  I like to add the tool radius - Tolerance so in your case, 2.9mm should do the trick.  Joining the file I played with in case you want to take a look.

 

Hope this helps!



Michael Grenier
Senior Solution Engineer
1 Like

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

How can you select this contour? You must use 2 contours no? It's one of the thing i find annoying in fusion is "how to select this contour exactly". So what's your trick? I must have the same issue for the neck joint selection, where i have a reverse filet i should not have. Thanks for your help...

0 Likes

michael.grenier4GVTU
Autodesk
Autodesk
So modify the contour that is automatically selected, just click again the contour and you’ll be able to select more edges to modify the default chain.


Michael Grenier
Senior Solution Engineer
1 Like

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

Great, i did it. But there is a warning so no tool path. I don't really understand, it's because the filet is too small for the tool?

And for the outside filet, you choosed only the lowest contour, but a little part of the upper contour? Why?

I did not see other differences...

Thanks

0 Likes

daniel_lyall
Mentor
Mentor

@eric.thepaut3 This should help I show how to do it on the 2 bad contours.

 

 

 

Also what is here will help.

See this video for selecting toolpaths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATs4rsI_TPc


Win10 pro | 16 GB ram | 4 GB graphics Quadro K2200 | Intel(R) 8Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz

Daniel Lyall
The Big Boss
Mach3 User
My Websight, Daniels Wheelchair Customisations.
Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn

0 Likes

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

Hi Daniel, first thanks for your help. Now i can select the contour i want, at least so far.

Today i redrew my guitar with more simple operations. The design has been quite easy. And i flipped to manufacture to do a 3D pocket cleaning with a short contour, exactly what i want. And when i click ok, i have that silly warning : "empty tool path" with no help at all. I did a scallop with the same contour, but the tool path stay on the model top plane. Last time it was a problem with the set up, but now i don't see. Set up seems ok. Here is my file : https://a360.co/2UPULpE

 

 

0 Likes

eric.thepaut3
Advocate
Advocate

Thank you Mikael, i think i got it now. 

0 Likes

daniel_lyall
Mentor
Mentor

@seth.madore Can you have a look at the contour toolpath in the first setup, I had one the same last week where it was jumping all over the show like this one.

 

@eric.thepaut3 Deselect and reselect the guitar body again.


Win10 pro | 16 GB ram | 4 GB graphics Quadro K2200 | Intel(R) 8Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz

Daniel Lyall
The Big Boss
Mach3 User
My Websight, Daniels Wheelchair Customisations.
Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn

0 Likes