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2D CONTOUR TOOL COMPENSATION NOT WORKING WITH WALL TAPER ANGLE

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Message 1 of 17
Fabbunny69
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2D CONTOUR TOOL COMPENSATION NOT WORKING WITH WALL TAPER ANGLE

2D CONTOUR TOOL COMPENSATION NOT WORKING WITH WALL TAPER ANGLE

Hi Everybody,

 

Only been using Fusion for a few weeks and I am having problems getting the wall taper parameter to work in 2d Contour toolpath.

 

When I put an angle in the wall taper parameter in this case 65deg then fusion seems to ignore the diameter compensation, I hope my first screencast helps you understand my issue.

 

The angle is being created at the bottom of a counter bore.

 

Looking forward to your response and many thanks for your time.

 

Wayne

 
 
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Message 2 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: Fabbunny69

SORRY SCREENCAST LINK BELOW, IT DIDNT ATTACH AS A EXPECTED.

https://autode.sk/2ZfLetU

 
Message 3 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: Fabbunny69

Can you share your file so I have the exact same data as you?

File > Export > Save to local folder, return to thread and attach the .f3d file in your reply


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 4 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: seth.madore

Sorry I will get used to this 🙄 file attached.

Message 5 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: Fabbunny69

Not gonna deny that there's something going awry here. However, do you need/want a 65 degree taper in the bottom of the counterbore? It seems that it would be more appropriate to have the feature actually modeled in the part, rather than trying to get it to work with sketches and 2d toolpaths.


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 6 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: seth.madore

With this component being very simple in design, just four counter bored holes (although 50rc Bisaloy) I didn't see the need to model it, but that could be my 10+year Mastercam way of thinking I suppose. 

 

Is it necessary to model everything in Fusion to get maximum guaranteed functionality?

Message 7 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: Fabbunny69

PS> yes the 65deg counter bored is required to mate with taper lock bolts.

Message 8 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: Fabbunny69

Yes, in most cases. 2D toolpaths (except for Chamfer) are more than happy to violate the model, but all the 3D toolpaths are "model aware". For this, I'd model it properly, and then use Ramp or Scallop to machine it.


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 9 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: seth.madore

Thanks for that. But I think that the tool compensation should still be corrected in this toolpath when using a taper angle, this must be an error in the Fusion.

Message 10 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: Fabbunny69

It is an error. I haven't had time today to investigate closer and log it. I'll circle back once I do 🙂


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 11 of 17
Fabbunny69
in reply to: seth.madore

@seth.madore you get anywhere with this?

Message 12 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: Fabbunny69

I could have sworn I replied to the other thread you had started.....

At any rate, you need to be selecting the bottom contour. The Wall Taper Angle is calculated from a bottom-up approach.


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 13 of 17
tony.loosa
in reply to: seth.madore

What if you are generating tool path from wire frame and only have the top diameter information? Creating tapered tool path from the bottom up doesn't make sense to calculate the bottom location all the time.

Message 14 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: tony.loosa

It does for 2D Contour.

Would you be able to share your Fusion file here or privately?
File > Export > Save to local folder, return to thread and attach the .f3d file in your reply. To share the file privately, it's the same process, but email it to me: seth DOT madore AT autodesk DOT com


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 15 of 17
tony.loosa
in reply to: seth.madore

In both cases, the tool path removes more material then it should. (ID taper of profile)

Message 16 of 17
seth.madore
in reply to: tony.loosa

In order for taper passes in 2D Contour to be placed correctly, your contour needs to be your bottom height. Trying to drive this off a single sketch at the top plane just isn't going to work easily (without a lot of trial and error with Stock to Leave). The quick and easy solution is to sketch the diameter (or make a solid/surface) and select the proper contour to be machined.

Bottom contour driven:

2023-08-15_05h13_25.png

 

I've attached the file for your review

 

Top Contour Driven (original sketch):

2023-08-15_05h16_08.png


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing
Message 17 of 17
tony.loosa
in reply to: seth.madore

That's why it's not working correctly. The customer drawing only gives me the inner and outer diameter diameter of the weld bevel at the surface, not from the bottom of the weld bevel.

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