Toolpath not supported error

Toolpath not supported error

kretallick144
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Toolpath not supported error

kretallick144
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Im unable to post my code for a simple turned, drilled and bored part for Lathe.

Error is,  Milling toolpath is not supported by the post configuration.

Operation type in setup is set as Turning or mill turn. 

I must be missing something obvious!

 

 

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Anonymous
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Just a wild guess, you are using wrong post, wrong tool, have incorrect axis orientation in setup, bug in Fusion,.............. any or all of the above, no way to tell without more information.

Fusion file would help, or some equivalent of it, if you can't share publicly.

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kretallick144
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Lol, could be any of those!

Its to do with the drilling cycles. spot drill and deep drill, neither is accepted.  Ive used spot drill in other programs with no issues.

 

 

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kretallick144
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Ive re orientated the X and Z axis for the drilling cycles correctly after that upload, same error.

 

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Anonymous
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Your model was misaligned, I just drew a circle to show it. I always start model for turning by revolving a sketch around Z axis.

I split the body in half and projected section onto XZ plane, deleted old body and created new from revolved sketch.

I added sketch line to use as X axis reference in setup and relocated origin to model face, that becomes Z0 and plane from which all tool paths are referenced in Z axis.

 

Rebuilding model from sketch obtained from misaligned model resulted in minor dimensional discrepancy but my focus was on cleaning up the process.

You can adjust model dimensions in case they matter and regenerate tool paths.

 

File had too many problems to list so just compare my file to yours one operation and one tool at a time.

I'll just mention one thing, 16 mm diameter boring bar with insert edge below boring bar diameter cannot cut or fit into 12 mm hole.

That can produce process similar to welding and joint is usually permanent and just as rigid as real weld.

 

 

 

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johnswetz1982
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You did not say what you were using for a post processor. Does your post list milling as a capability? That is the first reason your error is getting thrown out. The second is that the operation when checked with view toolpath show them as off center, meaning your post would have to have milling enabled to machine this feature. You used your back surface axis as the Z axis but the problem is that your hole feature is not defined as being on the center of your part, only close to it. You need to define the references in the hole feature dialog, that will make your feature on center, you will then be able to post out with no trouble. 

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kretallick144
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Ahh, all my own beginner faults. 

Thankyou.  Easy enough to start over with the design. 

I wasnt going to try and friction weld the boring bar into the part. Hole is meant to be drilled 19mm first.

Somehow in adding another drill size ive ended up with the wrong one.

 

 

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Anonymous
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@kretallick144 wrote:

Ahh, all my own beginner faults. 

Thankyou.  Easy enough to start over with the design. 

I wasnt going to try and friction weld the boring bar into the part. Hole is meant to be drilled 19mm first.

Somehow in adding another drill size ive ended up with the wrong one.

 

 

Oh come on now, don't take the fun out of it. 😂


 

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Anonymous
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I missed one, in your spot drill operation, there is no need for tool orientation, selecting hole or point is all that matters.

You would use tool orientation with drilling radial hole for example.

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I wanted to clarify another issue, model misalignment is not the cause of your original problems. Modeling and Manufacture work space are independent in that regard. What matters in case of Manufacture setup is that you properly align X and Z axis with model faces or sketches.

 

In screenshot below I intentionally rotated model in arbitrary direction then went back to Manufacture and regenerated tool paths. Nothing changed in the way tool paths worked before rotating model.

You'll notice that X axis is still radially aligned in model and setup origins but Y and Z axis are not.

 

If this model had any mill work it would be essential to use X axis alignment in setup by picking face or sketch but for turning alone only Z axis is sufficient.

 

Synchronizing model in both Model and Manufacture work space is important so that you can switch between them and add a sketch for purpose of generating tool path. 

If model alignment is not the same, added sketch used as geometry in tool path would produce bad result.

 

To sum it up, all your problems with original issues come down to setup and tool definitions.

Did my tiny little bit of nagging help you solve original issue, or did I miss something else?

 

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Message 10 of 14

Anonymous
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OK, I have an issue with you awarding yourself "solution" in this thread, and here is why.

It is possible that you marked your own post as solution by mistake so I give you benefit of  doubt,.... but.

Why is it important to acknowledge others in solving your issue that urged you to come on the forum and ask for help?

It's important because it is basic principle in being tankful for the help you get and by acknowledging it you progress in your learning curve and give others incentive to offer help.

 

I have other posts in which I provided definitive answer to problems brought up by poster claiming a bug or just being unaware of how things work or how to derive possible solution.

In some cases, posters took the solution and sad "thanks" but never marked the post as solved by me, again, it could have been just a an honest mistake of not knowing how things work on forum.

It could also be arrogance of having someone solve the problem for them and just run off with it.

I am no stranger to being victim of so called "lead guys"  or "supervisors" who are not smart enough to be leaders but are scumbags enough to take credit for someone else's work and even have them fired to protect their position and control over others.

 

I have no use for number of solutions showing next to my profile and I am not here to compete with anyone but it is common curtesy to recognize others and pass the credit in form of "solution" for whatever the problem was.

When I reworked your file, I had intent to address many of the issues by providing example you can learn from  as opposed to only telling you why drill is not working as you expected. I just want to stress one thing, Autodesk has very good support program, YouTube videos and this forum to help new users learn the basics.

 

I am stunned with number of posts in which authors have no clue as to what they are doing, totally disregarding the fact that they need to do their part before claiming bug or just come on forum and ask someone to do the work for them.

 

I studied Fusion for a year before making my first post on this forum, I benefited a lot from Cris Kristensen's videos and NYC videos on YouTube.

I made my first machined parts within days and weeks after first downloading Fusion and I have been learning and progressing in part with help of this forum and few experts on it such as Seth Madore and others but at this point I know for a fact that I have contributed to others as well as challenging some of the claims and processes instituted by people who own the CAM.

 

Sadly, not all facts have been taken into consideration or even acknowledged as valid.

So my global message here is, respect the value of experience and free advice because if you don't, you'll be left to figure things out for yourself and that does not benefit you as individual or Fusion as a whole.

Most valuable advice comes from people with decades of experience in any of the fields Fusion includes.

Individual who is beginner in particular field or Fusion as an establishment need to follow that trail and not contradict it or discredit it, ignorance is not mother of invention.

 

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seth.madore
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@Anonymous no need to get your knickers in a twist. If you ever feel that a solution was awarded improperly, just drop me a PM and I'll sort it out 😉


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing


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Message 12 of 14

Anonymous
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Seth, we both know there were situations in which posters got used to fishing for help that transpired into.... "can you get this done for me?" ..... and I am trying hard not to deprive true beginners of right amount of help.

The most offensive and insulting outcome of any exchange is to be the solution and see the beneficiary either just walk away or even claim credits for solving the issue.

 

I can't take those credits to the bank but they still mean something.

If I posted on forum 500 times and have no solution credits to my profile, I would not be surprised if someone with 10 credits to their profile called me an idiot.

 

These posts have value and purpose, nothing is resolved without time and effort, I put endless hours into getting grip on some things because the day after I have to face the prospects of applying that knowledge and skill at work, my paycheck is directly tied to my performance, whether I use Fusion, Mastercam or anything else.

I was forced to fill in the gap in mill department after no one was there to do it, people working there touch parts I make, therefore my paycheck is on line as well if things go wrong.

I made significant progress in that regard, thanks in part to this forum, good enough to have earned high marks from 

new manager who is career mill guru. 

 

I have grown to expect similar efforts from others or at least know their place in environment we share.

The sentiment agitated in my remarks has roots in real world situations where monetary damage was done in very much the same way, someone decorates themselves with results of someone else's work, whispers some BS into owners ears behind the machine and suddenly they are the decision makers.

 

I worked for and with handful of characters in recent years that I would not wish to share oxygen with in same room ever again, they know who I am and my only pleasure is seeing them desperately seeking someone to take my place after they fired me or I quit in disgust.

I am allergic to certain type of people and nothing can be done to fix that, diplomacy is not my middle name, strait shooter all the way, shortcut to finding out who your friends are and I have not seen many.

 

If anybody has any doubts about that, just ask your Facebook "friends" how many of them would put their neck on line for you in any situation that requires sacrifice.

 

Thank you for fixing the "solution" credits but I am still at loos over how it came about and why some other threads with clear case never got any response or conclusion.

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kretallick144
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VicKosta,

Ive posted a few times on this forum, and You have stepped up with excellent responses of the causes, how, why and ways to solve issues. Maybe its because there only words and no gestures as used in real life, or my lack of how this forum works, but my Accept solution post was mean as a thankyou as with your help i solved the problem.

Sometimes i get stuck, and cannot work out an issue with Fusion, last resort is come here and ask for help.  Usually it only takes a little prodding in the correct direction and i can solve it.

Its all one big learning curve!

BTW, i am working out of my shed in the backyard, no bosses to impress.

I had enough of the 'you work for me and i know best'  types also.

 

Keep up the Great work, You are a huge asset to the Fusion community.

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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So, why do I bother responding to posts knowing there is no direct benefit from it in terms of compensation .....?

Across the street or across the globe, seems to be the same.

 

Because no one becomes expert in anything over night.

Because it feels good to know I set someone on the right path.

Because sharing gives me access to more then I have.

Because by participating I find answers I did not have.

Because of being able to.

Because it is self promotion to a degree that may lead to better opportunity.

Because  at times I have nothing better to do.

Because solving some issues presents a challenge that inspires me.

 

Why do I break for small animals on the road?

 

Because skunk stinks up car for weeks.

Because squeal always wants to run to the other side of the road.

Because squeal is too dumb to know what's good for it.

Because I hope big animals will break for me when I don't know what's good for me. 

 

See you around and thanks for your words of praise, makes me feel smarter then I really am.

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