setting up a SDZCR/L boring bar or a custom boring bar

setting up a SDZCR/L boring bar or a custom boring bar

safiredesignengineers
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setting up a SDZCR/L boring bar or a custom boring bar

safiredesignengineers
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Hi group i am trying to set up the boring bar as per the below image:

but it is not going as planned!!

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at the moment i am getting this:

 

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any help on this please?

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seth.madore
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Those are a mess. The Tool Library is in sore need of improvement when it comes to lathe tooling, sad to say. The best I can offer you (I think) is to offer you something like this. It's likely going to run into issues though....

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Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing


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safiredesignengineers
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Hi Seth

 

thankyou for your reply.

when you say issues do you think ii will not get it to run in fusion?

what do you mean by "those are a mess" ?

Also you set up screen looks very different to mine?  do i need an update or something??

 

A

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safiredesignengineers
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Hi Seth

 

did you get my reply?

regards A

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seth.madore
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Your reply slipped through the cracks, sorry.

I'm opting to use the old tool library, it's available in your Preferences > Preview settings.

 

Lathe tool definitions are horrid. Once you go past your standard OD/ID tool, Fusion falls apart. Heck, try defining an internal thread tool. So, yeah, they're a mess.

 

Will it run? Possibly, but I won't hold my breath...


Seth Madore
Customer Advocacy Manager - Manufacturing


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umesh.bilimoria
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Hello Seth,

You stole the words right out of my mouth.

Fusion is great for milling, I will go as far as saying that it's one of the best softwares for milling out there right now.

 

But, when it comes to lathe, it's a completely different story. I've tried using fusion for turning but every time I try using it, I hit a roadblock. Sometimes the code doesn't match what its showing on the screen and simulation and it becomes a very dangerous situation. I've tried using canned cycles for tuning and its full of bugs. Tool library is ****ty etc.

Seems like there is a big disconnect between fusion turning developer team and real world situations. Instead of spending time on developing new things, they should be concentrating on current cycles and making them more robust and user friendly like milling cycles. It's all about giving users more control of how they want to machine part rather than fusion developer team deciding how it should be done. 

There needs to be a real discussion at Autodesk about lathe aspect of fusion. 

To be honest I am not sure how people that just do turning are using fusion at all, I for one will not use it as of yet.

Autodesk needs to realize that TURNING IS AS IMPORTANT AS MILLING

 

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zwelsh91
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Though I do agree with you about Fusion 360 Turning as a whole leaving a lot to desire. I will say that the basics (profiling, facing, grooving, drilling) are there and they do operate fairly well. Things I see that could change are mostly in the Tool Library and tool definitions inside of it. I feel it to be more of an afterthought rather than a functioning tool. It speaks volumes when a "Finished" product that people pay Real Money for, doesn't offer good enough options for definition of tool holders and you are then forced to only define and insert and hope for the best on tool holder clearance. The most egregious oversight to me is the threading tools. you have to do a bunch of extra calculations to get them to cut right and you have no options to define thread forms other than 60º lay down or on edge. There are many other thread forms and we the users and industry manufacturers need to be able to define them. Threading is one of the principal operations of turning and treating it as an afterthought just amazes me. It should be most imperative that threading be rock solid and user friendly. Right now and as long as I have been using Fusion for turning it has felt like I was paying to participate in a "Paid Alpha Testing" Experience.

Zak Welsh
Zakary Welsh Machine LLC