Form tools in new tool library lose geometry

Form tools in new tool library lose geometry

FrodoLoggins
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Form tools in new tool library lose geometry

FrodoLoggins
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Any edit to the tool just makes the tool look like a square end mill. 

 

Also unable to change the tool number, just throws an error. Sometimes it does actually allow me to change the tool number, sometimes it does but just changes it to a different number than what I entered.

 

Tool was created with the old tool library.

 

What it should look like:

Screen Shot 2020-03-31 at 8.16.05 AM.png

What it looks like as soon as I double click on the tool to edit it:

Screen Shot 2020-03-31 at 8.16.01 AM.png

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obrienm
Autodesk
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Hi @FrodoLoggins ,

 

Thanks for your feedback.

We're aware of this problem with editing form mills and have work lined up to fix it. The internal task ID is CAM-18729.

 



Mark O'Brien
Senior Software Engineer
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jegrebet
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Right now I'm encountering exactly the same problem!! I would love to be informed when this issue is fixed...

Besides, I am trying to model slot mills that look like that this: Slot mill 1.PNG

 

Additionally, I would like to know which height is relevant in regards to the G-code and the tool-length sensor on my machine: is it the actual Bottom point of the tool, or the compensation point selected during its creation? I need to be sure before I start cutting slots like this, where I can't afford the slightest inaccuracy:Slot mill cutting.png

 
 
 

And I could find no tutorial about how to program tool paths for this kind of slot mills, although it is a rather common type of tool. It would even deserve a special tool type in the tool Library, in my opinion...

               Thank you for your help,

 

                                Jean-Emmanuel GREBET

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christopher.cooperVHK2N
Autodesk
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@jegrebet We have completed some form tool work and the ability to create form tools and view them correctly in preview should be available in the June update. Looking at the description in your project if you were to use a form tool and you selected the biggest diameter and then either the upper or lower edge of the tool as a compensation point you will need to ensure you select the corresponding curve to match. I used 2D contour to produce the path . The NC code will reflect the diameter (X) of the tool you selected via the compensation point but the height will not. The Z value will be from the bottom of the tool. I know many users will not want to probe the end of the tool in this situation as it is normally an arbour nut or similar which is not accurate. There is a couple of ways to work around if you definitely need to use the form tool. I also used a slot mill to produce the form and the Z heights in both simulation and nc code were correct to the tool profile. if you are slitting the profile maybe this would be a good option? Please note that using the slot mill or manipulating the offset on the form mill will mean that the arbour nut or tool end is not accounted for in the code and means essentially you have tool access over the 0 Z length and could cause a collision. If this is unclear or you have further questions then please feel free to direct message me.

 

Thanks

 

Chris 

Christopher Cooper
Technical Consultant