1st op Simulation doesn't show during second op

1st op Simulation doesn't show during second op

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1st op Simulation doesn't show during second op

EpicSam
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hi

 

 I'm having a slight clearance issues i believe i have corrected the heights but i can confirm with the simulation 

 

 I can get a full simulation of the top side, and the second side. but when i go to simulate the second side the model goes back to the full stock so i can't see a fully completed object in the end. 

 

little help?

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seth.madore
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Would you be able to share your Fusion file here?
File > Export > Save to local folder, return to thread and attach the .f3d/.f3z file in your reply.


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EpicSam
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attached is my Fusion file.

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seth.madore
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Two issues:

1) In Setup2 (first setup), you've not selected any model to machine, so it consumes all possible models in the Setup. You want to intentionally select the model to machine

2) In your Setup 4 (second setup) you've got "From Preceding Setup" for Stock, but you've not enabled the "Continue Rest Machining"

Here's what it looks like with the appropriate changes made:

2024-05-18_10h32_04.png

 

What was your intent/expectation with the mesh file; was that an attempt at creating 2nd Op stock, or some other purpose?

 

Oh, one last: your last toolpath of the first Setup is interesting. You've called it "ball mill OD", but you're using a spot drill? Further, it's gouging the part:

2024-05-18_10h34_06.png


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EpicSam
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is this what you mean for selecting the model?  see attached.  it used to say CAM, and canceled that and clicked on the main model now it says BODY.   is that correct? 

 

 I selected rest machining on the second set up and still the same. 

 

 for the mesh body, i'm not sure the intension of that, i don't understand the purpose.  it was the attempt to create the second op stock yes, i only went this way since i was following the tutorials provided by fusion. 

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EpicSam
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the last op with the ball mill is okay, i've done a few like that now. i'm creating an inverted fillet but the system doesn't recognize a ball mill for that operation. i know it looks odd but it worked out well.

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seth.madore
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Oh, sorry, I thought I had shared the file back to you. Here's the file.

What tutorials are you following? The "mesh as stock" workflow is mostly eliminated by the use of "From Preceding Stock" and "Continue Rest Machining" setting in your second setup.


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EpicSam
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hmm, i seem to have made the changes you recommended as far as i can see in comparison. still getting a warning.

Screenshot  warning.png

 

 

this is the tutorial i was using to get started. it did seem like a few things were possibly older versions.

 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/courses/AP-INTRODUCTION-OVERVIEW

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seth.madore
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Have you looked at the file I shared in my last message? Can you share the file that you've got?


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EpicSam
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i did look through your file, i'm trying to identify the changes. not sure what i'm missing. 

 

here is my current file

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seth.madore
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When I opened your file, all the toolpaths were out of date. I regenerated everything and when I go to simulate OP2, I see this:

2024-05-19_14h09_22.png


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EpicSam
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shoot i see,  i missed that...  i regenerated the paths and it worked on my end as well. thank you.

 

is it common for the tool paths to go out of date? 

 

also in regards to the mesh body, that is not required for anything now that "from previous set up" is available?

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seth.madore
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@EpicSam wrote:

is it common for the tool paths to go out of date? 


When you change something in Design and it's tied to your model in the Setup, your toolpaths will go out of date, as a general rule of thumb

 


@EpicSam wrote:

also in regards to the mesh body, that is not required for anything now that "from previous set up" is available?


Not really, no. Only reason I can think would be if you decided to Derive out the part into another document to continue the machining. I've done that with a couple of files, as I had so many toolpaths (250 toolpaths and 70 tools), it became too laborious to keep things nice and tidy. In that case, I exported out the STL of OP1 and 2 stock, imported it into OP3 file. It was "close enough" that if I made subtle changes in OP1/2, I really didn't care if it wasn't a perfect representation (individual judgement, decide for yourself if that applies)


Seth Madore
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EpicSam
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thank you, i appreciate all the help.

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