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Things that slow down development

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jesper8W75R
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Things that slow down development

A tool like Fusion Electronics (FE) should make it simple, fast and easy for a developer to do their work.

But, FE sadly lacks a lot and in many cases make it slow, annoying and tedious instead.
Here is some of the problems:

 

1. FE does not remember track widths.

If I open a board and want to route an air-wire, it will default to 0.1524mm. Where does THAT come from.
Why doesn't it remember the LAST width I used? Which is 0.2032 80% of the time.

 

2. FE does not remember via settings.

Why can't it remember what via size I used last? Again, it default to something, in this case 0.35mm, which is NOT what I want.

 

3. FE does not remember grid settings.

This one is super annoying. Every time I open my board, I have to reset the grid settings, 0.1mm/10mul/0.01mm, grid on. WHY is this not persistent????
WHY can't I set whatever the "Default" button is configured for.

 

4. FE does not remember last component size choice.

This is perhaps a bit of a stretch, but when placing, especially resistors and caps, it would be nice if it remembered the last variant used. For most people, they use the same almost all the time. But you have to scroll though MANY variants to get to 0603, for instance.
Normally, I "workaround" this, but just copying components I already have in the design. But still.....


5. FE does not remember column settings in panes.
Not quite sure about this. It didn't work previously, but I just tried again, and it worked. 
It does not survive a Fusion restart though.
I need to check this a bit more.

 

EAGLE remembered ALL these settings, across restarts too.


Now, every time you open/reopen a board for layout, you have to spend a lot of time setting all these things back to the settings YOU use.
Sometimes you might miss and route half the board with an incorrect trace and wrong vias.
Great!

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Hallo @jesper8W75R,

 

same issues here.

Still working with Eagle and tranfering to fusion because of these things.

Next problem is missing documentation and command "help" on command line!

Eagle 9.6.2 / Fusion 360
Working with Eagle since Version 3.x
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"Next problem is missing documentation and command "help" on command line!"

Yes, a serious mistake!
I use text commands and ULPs a lot.
Now I have to open EAGLE next to Fusion to get the documentation.
Great work, Autodesk.
Can you do something about this, @jorge_garcia2 ?

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jorge_garcia2
in reply to: jesper8W75R

Hi @jesper8W75R ,

 

We have a dedicated resource on documentation now so you'll see this situation improve in the next few releases. Most of the EAGLE help has been transferred over to Fusion, you can find it here: https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=ECD-CLI

 

Getting a Manual as such will take more time because it has to fit in the documentation scheme of Fusion 360. Check out the electronics section on that main page and feel free to highlight key things from the EAGLE manual that you feel we should prioritize bringing into Fusion's documentation. That feedback will be helpful.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

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jesper8W75R
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Thanks @jorge_garcia2 , the documentation actually looks pretty good.

It's just a shame you cant find it without some clicking around.
Searching for things like "ulp", "cli", "ratsnets" all fail.

"No Results Found".
Actually very very little of the Fusion Documentation can actually be found though that Help Search.

And WHY isn't the CLI doc available from the Fusion Command Line, with the keyword HELP, like before??

 

I don't think you need a "manual" as such, documentation like you have already is fine. But it should go all the way, of course. There are many tricks in the box when making a design. 
I, personally, make extensive use of shortcuts, layer flipping e.t.c. 
These shortcuts should be well documented and easy to find. While they ARE relatively well documented (except for a lot missing for the Electronics workspace), they are not so easy to find.
You can NOT search for them from the Fusion Help, but you can search for them on the Fusion Product Documentation help page.

 

Another problem with Fusion documentation is that a lot of it is outdated. Especially various screencasts and videos showing how to do things. They are made on an interface and workflow that is completely different from how it is today.

 

And while we are on videos....
Everybody is different, but I really hate them. They are often extremely slow paced and takes forever to get to the point (this depends, to some degree, on who made them).
The other day, I was looking for something about Smart Dimensioning and found an 8 minute video.
It took me 1 minute to scroll it to find what looked what I needed and 15 seconds to watch the interesting part.

An explanation, in writing, could have accomplished the same, and it would have been even faster.

 

And then back a bit, relating to outdated.

 

As I said, I work a lot with keyboard shortcuts and (used to work with) custom ULPs and scripts.
These are now more or less useless in Fusion, as I cannot place an icon or even a text button on the toolbar.
But isn't that a funny coincidence, that one of my MOST used scripts are in the Fusion Electronics Documentation:
https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=ECD-CONFIG-TEXT

The problem is, of course, that this does NOT work in Fusion. 😞

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jorge_garcia2
in reply to: jesper8W75R

Hi @jesper8W75R ,

 

Thanks for the feedback I'm recording a feature request to allow the HELP command to reference the CLI documentation.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

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jesper8W75R
in reply to: jorge_garcia2

Thank you, @jorge.garcia , that would be very helpful.

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