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Does any action get taken?

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zigzag2015
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Does any action get taken?

Some time ago I posted that one of the transistor pinouts was reversed, the base and emitter terminals.

Regrettably I accidentally picked the same model for a new design, with the same result, a PCB with a

layout fault. Clearly the notification I made has not been acted on.

 

I have another issue, subject of another thread where I cannot break file links and therefore

delete files. The thread has bgeen responded to by Autodesk but there is still no procedure to

do as I require.

 

Some months ago I reported a fault with the way Fusion handled polygon pours such that a ULP that used to work

with EAGLE no longer works. Thus had been elevated to the technical team but to my knowledge has gone no further.

 

I have raised three issues, but notwithstanding that my enquiry has been replied to, no solution has eventuated.

 

Craig

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Message 2 of 6
jorge_garcia2
in reply to: zigzag2015

Hi @zigzag2015 ,

 

I hope you're doing well. As far as the transistor pinout goes, could you let me know which transistor and in which library you found the issue? That way I can take it up again to the libs team. In the short term, I recommend copying the component to a personal library fixing it and only using it from there. There is a reason why most seasoned engineers will only use components from there own personal libraries.

 

Deletion with cloud data is always tricky. I would recommend creating a trash project and just moving whatever you dont want to use there. This unfortunately is the nature of the beast and I don't forsee much changing on that front any time soon.

 

In regards to the polygon and ULPs, this is something that is being worked on. Right now there's a lot of focus on infrastructure, so it's more than just fixing one ULP it's about obviating the need for it or providing a better way to do what it does.

 

So in short, action is being taken and work is being done but sometimes it takes time to see the fruit of that labor. Thank you for the follow up. Feel free to post whenever you want an update.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

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Message 3 of 6
zigzag2015
in reply to: jorge_garcia2

Hi,

.'Deletion with cloud data is always tricky. I would recommend creating a trash project and just moving whatever you dont want to use there. This unfortunately is the nature of the beast and I don't forsee much changing on that front any time soon.'

 

That's exactly what I have done, but its not really effective. If for instance I decide I need to delete

say a PCB outline file I cannot link a new or revised outline as the original file still exists despite

being swept into a trash folder. In short its necessary to delete ALL files and start the project anew which is time wasting.

 

I provide details on the faulty transistor pinout three months ago....has anyone attempted to follow it up?

 

I raised the issue about a broken ULP four months ago, and was informed then it was on a list of things to do....but nothing done yet.

 

It seems that I'm paying a subscription to a company who reply to enquiries but don't actually do

anything about them.

 

Craig

Message 4 of 6
yaqoubdesign
in reply to: zigzag2015

Craig,  what you said : 

"That's exactly what I have done, but its not really effective. If for instance I decide I need to delete

say a PCB outline file I cannot link a new or revised outline as the original file still exists despite

being swept into a trash folder. In short its necessary to delete ALL files and start the project anew which is time wasting."

 

 You can go to the main design file and unlink the PCB or the 3D files-- Does that help? 

 

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Also,  I noticed if you get this:  

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then all kinds of strange things can happen.  You may permanantly loose the link between your schematic and your pcb.   The symptoms are now this:  If you change your schematic,  It won't update the pcb ever again.  NO WAY to get rid of that "F/B Annotation has been severed" .   You have to unlink everything as above and then start your pcb over.    From my experimentation,  I noticed that this might be avoided if you save everything as soon as you change something and then make sure all files are open once created: The main file ( i forgot what that's called), the schematic file, and when you make the pcb view and 3d view, save them immediately and keep them open at all times.   Make sure you don't see "F/B Annotation has been severed."     Then it seems to work ok.     Can you give that a try?

Message 5 of 6
zigzag2015
in reply to: yaqoubdesign

Hi,

I have already encountered the difficulty that when the FB Annotation has been severed and thats

fatal. I have discovered, as you have alluded to, that to open the design file allows the schematic and PCB

to stay in synch whereas as doing an operation directly on either file alone will cause a fatal disconnect.

 

Thats not what's happening here however.

 

Follow this example:

I have a new design folder. In that folder there is a schematic and a PCB file. I will typically open a

new design, not electronic, that allows me to use Fusions CAD features to design the mechanical

features of the board. I am often designing PCBs to fit inside of existing automotive instruments and

the mecahincal design is critical to having the PCB fit in its correct location once complete. Once the sketch

is complete I will DerivePCB and impress the generated board onto the PCB layout file.

 

The electronics design folder is now populated with a schematic, PCB and two 3D PCB files.

 

I realised after some short period of time that my original sketch is faulty, that is I hadn't allowed

for a certain feature say. I can open and update the sketch, no trouble.

 

I would un-link the PCB file and the two 3D PCB files in the electronic design file, and generate a new

and fresh PCB file. Whereon I can derive a new PCB from my edited sketch and press that onto the

new PCB file.

 

What I cannot do is delete the original PCB or 3D PCB files, as they are described as having links to OR are referenced

by another file. I would swear that I had purposely unlinked the files....but no.

 

I suspect that because I have retained the original and over-all electronics design file and the schematic

it contains a reference to the outdated files despite my attempt to unlink them.

 

The problem with these files are that they confuse my design space, so I will sweep them to a Trash folder.

They are not however deleted and so often when I go to do some operation on the latest suite of files

the operations ocurr to the old files instead.

 

The only way to fully secure independent PCBs is to start a completely fresh electronics design file,

but this involves re-doing ofteng considerable work, and wasting time.

 

I feel that I should be able to delete a file at will, or rather, at need. If I break some link because I forced

the delete...well thats my problem. As it stands NOT being able to delete redundant files adds to design

confusion at least, but wasting of design time at worst.

 

Craig

 

 

Message 6 of 6
jorge_garcia2
in reply to: zigzag2015

Hi @zigzag2015 ,

 

I hope you're doing well. It might be that I'm missing some detail of your product but in paragraph 6 you mention unlinking the 2D PCB file from the 3D PCB and enclosure file. This is isn't necessary and creates a lot more work for you than necessary. 

 

If you find that you missed some feature in the board outline, go to the enclosure and correct the sketch from which the PCB was derived. Save the enclosure, then go to the 3D PCB you'll see there are update you can pull in. Pull them in that will update the 3D PCB, from there you can push those changes to the 2D PCB and you're good.

 

If you can provide more details that would help, because I really see no need to break the links in this scenario.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

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