Components origin layers have disapeard since last update ?

[n_pou]

Dear Fusion team,

I can't find the component origin layers (tOrigins and bOrigins), they have disapeard since last update. Could youu please put them back, it is very problematic.

thanks in advance,

Best regards,

[n_pou]

Dear Fusion team,

I can't find the component origin layers (tOrigins and bOrigins), they have disapeard since last update. Could youu please put them back, it is very problematic.

thanks in advance,

Best regards,

[joseph.hoermann]

Hi @n_pou,

The January update has removed these layers due to improvements that have been made. This article will walk you through these changes. For more features that were added to Fusion Electronics please see our blog update here.

Please let me know if you have additional questions. Many thanks.

[joseph.hoermann]

Hi @n_pou,

The January update has removed these layers due to improvements that have been made. This article will walk you through these changes. For more features that were added to Fusion Electronics please see our blog update here.

Please let me know if you have additional questions. Many thanks.

[n_pou]

Dear Joseph,

Thank you for your reply and explanation. The problem for me is that it's now impossible to hide the center of the components, which is a big problem for legibility. Is there a simple way of doing this?

Thank you very much,

with my best regards,

[n_pou]

Dear Joseph,

Thank you for your reply and explanation. The problem for me is that it's now impossible to hide the center of the components, which is a big problem for legibility. Is there a simple way of doing this?

Thank you very much,

with my best regards,

[jorge_garcia · Accepted solution]

Hi @n_pou,

I hope you're doing well. If you want to hide the origins go to the Selection filter and deselect the Component option. You'll see the origin markers go away. 

With that said this is typically not necessary since the image export options and the print command automatically hide them by default.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[jorge_garcia · Accepted solution]

Hi @n_pou,

I hope you're doing well. If you want to hide the origins go to the Selection filter and deselect the Component option. You'll see the origin markers go away. 

With that said this is typically not necessary since the image export options and the print command automatically hide them by default.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[n_pou]

Thank you Jorge for your answer,

Best regards,

[n_pou]

Thank you Jorge for your answer,

Best regards,

[radek.bystricky]

This is an unbelievably stupid and counterintuitive step and no it was printed with the origins.

[radek.bystricky]

This is an unbelievably stupid and counterintuitive step and no it was printed with the origins.

[jesper8W75R]

@jorge_garcia 
This is yet another stupid change from the incompetent Autodesk Team, that apparently never USE Fusion Electronics to actually design boards in practice.

If you work with highly populated and (relatively) small double-sided PCBs, the clutter gets incredible with the origins on and selecting a certain component on the top or bottom of the PCB gets almost impossible.
The solution to use the Components in the Selection filter is USELESS as it hides BOTH top an bottom origins.

PLEASE put those layers back again.
I cannot ever fathom the logic to remove them in the first place.
As you have the nice layer customization display panel, why not just leave them and let people disable them if they don't want them?
It's also a zillion times faster to enable/disable the origins by using layers, that fiddling with the silly Selection Filter. 

BTW - What genius decided to NOT have air-wires selected by default in the Selection Filter? (And not offering an option to change this configuration)
How can you route anything without being able to select an air-wire to route?

The design decisions are mind boggling.

[jesper8W75R]

@jorge_garcia 
This is yet another stupid change from the incompetent Autodesk Team, that apparently never USE Fusion Electronics to actually design boards in practice.

If you work with highly populated and (relatively) small double-sided PCBs, the clutter gets incredible with the origins on and selecting a certain component on the top or bottom of the PCB gets almost impossible.
The solution to use the Components in the Selection filter is USELESS as it hides BOTH top an bottom origins.

PLEASE put those layers back again.
I cannot ever fathom the logic to remove them in the first place.
As you have the nice layer customization display panel, why not just leave them and let people disable them if they don't want them?
It's also a zillion times faster to enable/disable the origins by using layers, that fiddling with the silly Selection Filter. 

BTW - What genius decided to NOT have air-wires selected by default in the Selection Filter? (And not offering an option to change this configuration)
How can you route anything without being able to select an air-wire to route?

The design decisions are mind boggling.

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @jesper8W75R,

I hope this message finds you well, haven't heard from you in a bit. Have you actually used the latest version of Fusion? It's true the selection filter is different but the functionality is all there, you can control component selection by layer just like you could before. I even tested it right now to confirm. With the selection filter set to Component and Top layer, you will only select components on the top layer. Component and Bottom will only select components on the Bottom. You can completely disable the component selection by deactivating the component filter. The selection filter can be scripted for certain configurations so switching the selection isn't any more difficult than adjusting layers. It's just different but the functionality is still there.

In regards to the airwire selection, the routing tools only select airwires so their behavior is independent of the selection filter. Airwire is disabled from the selection filter to avoid commands like info or a large selection unnecesarily including them in the inspector. Try it, you'll see it makes sense.

Best Regards,

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @jesper8W75R,

I hope this message finds you well, haven't heard from you in a bit. Have you actually used the latest version of Fusion? It's true the selection filter is different but the functionality is all there, you can control component selection by layer just like you could before. I even tested it right now to confirm. With the selection filter set to Component and Top layer, you will only select components on the top layer. Component and Bottom will only select components on the Bottom. You can completely disable the component selection by deactivating the component filter. The selection filter can be scripted for certain configurations so switching the selection isn't any more difficult than adjusting layers. It's just different but the functionality is still there.

In regards to the airwire selection, the routing tools only select airwires so their behavior is independent of the selection filter. Airwire is disabled from the selection filter to avoid commands like info or a large selection unnecesarily including them in the inspector. Try it, you'll see it makes sense.

Best Regards,

[jesper8W75R]

@jorge_garcia Yes, Jorge, I've been staying a way from here to reduce stress.
I've learned the hard way than reporting bugs or complaining about odd or broken functionality to Autodesk, is a waste of time.
I update, sometimes more than once a week, and still, some of the bugs I reported 3 years ago, ARE STILL THERE.
And, of course, you've come up with a whole bunch of new ones. Files that cant be deleted, files and project that has totally disappeared both from Fusion and the Web view (This is serious sh*t, as we, because of you forcing us to use the cloud, have NO LOCAL BACKUP!)
I could go on and on, but I simply got tired of playing beta tester for you, especially when seeing that nobody gave a sh*t about the bug reports. At least Fusion doesn't crash several times daily anymore, I'm down to a couple of times a week.
Also, an almost total lack of setting up defaults (even though it's a little better than a couple of years back), so every time I start on a new design, I have to click here and there to set everything up to MY preferred defaults.
Also a thing, reported ages ago.

I tried your suggestion with the Selection Filter and the layer list. It does, kinda give the same functionality, and only select components on the active layer, but it STILL shows the origins of the layer you're not interested in.
So, there's no de-clutter, as there was then we had the tOrigins and bOrigins layers.
Again, if you feel for adding new functionality, WHY WHY WHY do you have to break the old one? It's beyond me.
And while it does, sorta, work, it's a lot of mouse clicking, selecting in the list, clicking, and restoring the list to what it was before. EXTREMELY more complex than it was with the layers.
But sure, please DO tell how to script this, so a single mouse-click with do it.

Ok, I'll back with the airwires issue. It seems there is new functionality that allows starting routing simply by clicking on a pad/via/existing track, which will allow starting routing at the end you prefer, this was not here earlier (in whatever version).
So, that works now, thank you.

[jesper8W75R]

@jorge_garcia Yes, Jorge, I've been staying a way from here to reduce stress.
I've learned the hard way than reporting bugs or complaining about odd or broken functionality to Autodesk, is a waste of time.
I update, sometimes more than once a week, and still, some of the bugs I reported 3 years ago, ARE STILL THERE.
And, of course, you've come up with a whole bunch of new ones. Files that cant be deleted, files and project that has totally disappeared both from Fusion and the Web view (This is serious sh*t, as we, because of you forcing us to use the cloud, have NO LOCAL BACKUP!)
I could go on and on, but I simply got tired of playing beta tester for you, especially when seeing that nobody gave a sh*t about the bug reports. At least Fusion doesn't crash several times daily anymore, I'm down to a couple of times a week.
Also, an almost total lack of setting up defaults (even though it's a little better than a couple of years back), so every time I start on a new design, I have to click here and there to set everything up to MY preferred defaults.
Also a thing, reported ages ago.

I tried your suggestion with the Selection Filter and the layer list. It does, kinda give the same functionality, and only select components on the active layer, but it STILL shows the origins of the layer you're not interested in.
So, there's no de-clutter, as there was then we had the tOrigins and bOrigins layers.
Again, if you feel for adding new functionality, WHY WHY WHY do you have to break the old one? It's beyond me.
And while it does, sorta, work, it's a lot of mouse clicking, selecting in the list, clicking, and restoring the list to what it was before. EXTREMELY more complex than it was with the layers.
But sure, please DO tell how to script this, so a single mouse-click with do it.

Ok, I'll back with the airwires issue. It seems there is new functionality that allows starting routing simply by clicking on a pad/via/existing track, which will allow starting routing at the end you prefer, this was not here earlier (in whatever version).
So, that works now, thank you.

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @jesper8W75R,

So the 2 commands for scripting the selection filter are the following.

SET SELECTTYPES arg1 arg2 ....

SET SELECTLAYERS arg1 arg2...

In testing this I found an issue with SELECTLAYERS and have filed a bug report for it. Don't be so hard on yourself, Fusion improved stability and features, is a testament that your reporting was not in vain. You have contributed to making Fusion better and for that we thank you. Look you found a new issue and we'll get to fixing it.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @jesper8W75R,

So the 2 commands for scripting the selection filter are the following.

SET SELECTTYPES arg1 arg2 ....

SET SELECTLAYERS arg1 arg2...

In testing this I found an issue with SELECTLAYERS and have filed a bug report for it. Don't be so hard on yourself, Fusion improved stability and features, is a testament that your reporting was not in vain. You have contributed to making Fusion better and for that we thank you. Look you found a new issue and we'll get to fixing it.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,