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Can I use the SamacSys Library Loader with Fusion 360?

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kschepens
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Can I use the SamacSys Library Loader with Fusion 360?

Hi,

 

In Eagle I always used the SamacSys Library Loader. With this one can search within mouser for parts and the tool then converts them to an Eagle part and adds them to an Eagle library.

 

Now that my Eagle library is in the cloud, how do I do this? Is there a local copy of the library located somewhere on my hard disk and if yes, can I just add parts to it so that Fusion 360 recognizes it's been updated?

 

Thanks in advance! 

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Message 2 of 12
jorge_garcia2
in reply to: kschepens

Hi @kschepens,

Unfortunately, the Library Loader will not work with Fusion360. At least not for now, Fusion stores everything on the cloud and even though there is a local cache any alteration to it would put you in no-man's land support wise. So far now I can say pretty assuredly that it doesn't work.

What you can do is continue contributing to your EAGLE library on the EAGLE side sine Fusion360 can consume assets from the managed library right now (can't edit but can consume).

Fusion360 has a robust scripting and third party application ecosystem, I wouldn't be surprised if Samacsys at some point ports the tool over.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,


Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

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Message 3 of 12
kschepens
in reply to: jorge_garcia2

Hi Jorge,

 

I don't think I understand. What do you mean by I can continue contributing to my EAGLE library? This is my Eagle Library as far as I know.

 

So just to be sure that we are on the same line:

I am not using Eagle anymore. I want to add parts from Mouser. In Eagle I could use the Library Loader and the parts would be added to a library. How do I now add Mouser parts to my library? 

Message 4 of 12
jorge_garcia2
in reply to: kschepens

Hi @kschepens,

I hope you're doing well. Currently, it's not possible for the Library Loader to work with Fusion360. The easiest work around I can come up with is to keep using the Library Loader in EAGLE and then upload that library into Fusion360. That's probably the best way for now.

We are working to bridge the two library systems and improve the workflow in the Electronics library editor.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,


Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

Did this resolve your issue? Please accept it "As a Solution" so others may benefit from it.
Message 5 of 12
ykcCZ8AH
in reply to: kschepens

Hi,

 

Has this problem been solved yet?

 

Thanks.

Message 6 of 12
puresoft
in reply to: ykcCZ8AH

Hi,

 

I can confirm that I can use Library Loader to import the mouser parts etc. without using the desktop version of EAGLE, so should be a process open to all.

 

Here is my workflow. I would really like a video tutorial from @jorge_garcia2 on example workflows of how to use 3rd party libraries to make sure I'm doing this the right way - it seems rather convoluted and I'm sure there must be a better way with less steps...

 

1) I open Library Loader, and from within that utility I select "Open ECAD Model" at the top left. This then brings up a file dialogue to browse to and select the zip file you downloaded from mouser or wherever (this then finds the .EPW file from inside the zip folder, or if you already extracted the zip file, just point directly to the .EPW file). Let the Library Loader utility do it's processing for a few seconds and this will then generate several files, of which you will be interested in the .LBR file, and if also included the .STEP file for the 3D model.

2) In Fusion, when inside the schematics or board view, navigate to the "Library > Open Library Manager" menu and click that to open.

3) In Library Manager now click on "Available" tab and then "Browse" button to point to your .LBR file.

4) Now you can see it listed, so select it and choose "Edit".

5) Now "Save" the open library and it will save a local copy in your project.

6) Now click on upload icon in the MANAGE tab of Library Manager to "Push changes to managed library in library.io" which will upload, link, and then download the managed library.

7) Save your new version of this managed library.

😎 Now you can set the library to "Use" and use in your designs.

 

To Add a 3D model

9) With the part in your schematic, now flip over to board view and right-click on the part and select "Open Device", which loads it up in library viewer.

10) Expand the tree view of the part on the Content Manager until you see the package element displayed, then right-click on that and select Edit.

11) This brings up a Fusion 360 modelling screen with the footprint outline for the part but no 3D model shown. You now use the Upload feature on the main Fusion 360 panel to upload your .STL file into the project and then drag and drop that over into the modelling screen and if necessary rotate the part. When happy with that "Finish" and save the modelling file.

12) Now go into board view and via LIBRARY tab, select the last icon there relating to "Update design from all libraries used in design"

13) Click on "View 3D PCB" to load up the 3D viewer. It should detect that there is a change to the models and prompt you to click OK to reload, hopefully at which point you now see the part with new 3D model

 

I'll try and add a screencast now of the process.

 

Hope this helps others, but would really like some videos in this area from AutoDesk, demonstrating how we can efficiently pull in 3rd party libraries, models and organise these. I think in reality most users starting off will want to leverage 3rd party content, such as that from the part distributors or manufacturers. There's enough other stuff to learn rather than doing new library parts.

Message 7 of 12
puresoft
in reply to: puresoft

Here's the Screencast of what I'm doing at the moment to use Library Loader to access parts from Mouser. In the video I initially update the imported library with the 3D model from the SamSys library, but then replace that with a better one from DigiKey.

 
Message 8 of 12
ykcCZ8AH
in reply to: puresoft


@puresoft wrote:

Here's the Screencast of what I'm doing at the moment to use Library Loader to access parts from Mouser. In the video I initially update the imported library with the 3D model from the SamSys library, but then replace that with a better one from DigiKey.

@puresoft

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for the detailed guidance with screencast. I learnt about using 3D models from it. But my problem still exists and that’s because of me using macOS. I think I should I have mentioned it before. The idea behind the question is to be able to find mouser parts for mac without going through the separate software which exists only for windows. 

After a bit of searching I found that the componentsearchengine.com provides most of mouser parts with all libraries (Eagle, KiCad etc) once you register with them. I feel this is a better solution than having to go through multiple steps.


Obviously if we find some parts on ultra librarian or diy modules it works out of the box, the closest I could get for SamacSys parts is using component search engine.

 

Stay safe. 

Message 9 of 12
TimM94PE
in reply to: puresoft

Library management appears to be the key challenge of this technology, especially for new users. It is essential to be able to easily import libraries from vendors and distributors such as RS Components.

Message 10 of 12
formsR28H6
in reply to: kschepens

In case anyone else is using a MAC, using https://componentsearchengine.com I was able to find my parts, download the .zip file and import the .lbr file from the solidworks folder.

 

Message 11 of 12
formsR28H6
in reply to: kschepens

hmm, seems it is not 100% compatible, it imports and I can add it as a part, most of the attributes show up but there's no text in the parts list window on the left - any suggestions ?

 

You can see the part is selected and highlighed in blue, but there's no part info

Message 12 of 12
formsR28H6
in reply to: kschepens

It seems that this is not a problem and that the issue is with Fusion 360 app on OSX where the last item in the parts window is not visible unless you resize the panel.

 

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