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Bad UX when moving component

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Message 1 of 10
silvio3105
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Bad UX when moving component

Hi,

UX is very bad when trying to move component.

Here's a video -> https://youtu.be/dy90XSJgxmM

 

I'm trying to move a (whole) symbol of resistor and I cannot since >VALUE is placed at 0, 0(ref to symbol in lib).

Why main move handle/point is not on the top of the component? Now I have to select middle, right click and then move.

 

 

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Message 2 of 10
panpan_fan
in reply to: silvio3105

Hi @silvio3105 

I hope you are doing well!
Sorry for the inconvenience.

The Name/Value/Attribute and part original are overlapped and Fusion need to know which one you want to Move.

I will recommend you to Only Select Part in Selection Filter when you try to Move part in Schematic.

I hope it can help you to Move easily.

Please have a try, thanks!

Move1.PNG

Reagrds,

Panpan Fan

Message 3 of 10
silvio3105
in reply to: panpan_fan

It's kind of pain in the ass to select/deselect what I want to select.
I did not found similar problem when working in Altium(that I use on work). Altium does not have selection filter, at least I don't know for it(and don't use it).

Also, I found I can delete part of the symbol in schematic. Eg, I can select R5 or 200R and delete it.
Posibility to delete part of symbol is really bad because user can, by mistake, delete designator.
Make it to delete only whole symbol and only part of symbol can be moved around(in schematics).
I'm even not sure how to bring back deleted part of the symbol(I mean later so CTRL+Z won't work).
Message 4 of 10
panpan_fan
in reply to: silvio3105

Hi @silvio3105 

Sorry for the inconvenience.

I will bring this topic to the develop team to see if we can do some improvement on it.

As a workaround, you can use the Selection Filter now when you try to Move or Delete.

By the way, the Ctrl+Z works well for me. Can you please confirm which steps are not supported by Ctrl+Z?

Thanks a lot!

Regards,

Panpan Fan

 

Message 5 of 10
silvio3105
in reply to: panpan_fan

Ctrl+Z works, but I'm not sure how it will work after 30mins you see you deleted part of the symbol by mistake.
Message 6 of 10
jesper8W75R
in reply to: silvio3105

@silvio3105 You bring back NAME and VALUE parts of a component by right clicking the component and chose "Restore position". This will show them (if they were deleted) and also put them back at the default locations.

Message 7 of 10
jesper8W75R
in reply to: silvio3105

@silvio3105 In defense of Fusion (for once), this is not Fusions fault.
The blame goes to whoever made this totally non-standard component library.
Of course you cannot have two things at the same location and expect to move both.
But, if needed, use group to grab it all and move it. Works fine.

Message 8 of 10
silvio3105
in reply to: jesper8W75R

I know that with right click.
Sometimes I want to go to properties(right click -> properties), but instead it selectes object below.
Problem is not with objects at same place, problem is in that user has to click on very small point to move(tOrigin).
As I said, Altium has no problem with this, why? Because you don't have to click on little point to move object.
Message 9 of 10
jorge_garcia2
in reply to: silvio3105

Hi @silvio3105,

 

I agree with @jesper8W75R . Whoever made this library did not follow conventions and that's making it harder to use. We can argue UX and how things should be all day. The selection and workflows of Fusion 360 are inherited from EAGLE and for the time being to make best use of it, you have to conform to the best practices of the tool.

 

Just to be clear, I recognize that the UX for selection and movement can be improved. With that said, for now, you have to make your parts in such a way to avoid these types of issues. You'll notice that in the libraries we generally center components and put the >NAME and >VALUE placeholders above or below the component away from it's center. That will avoid these issues you are running into.

I'll report this to the UX for improvement.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

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Message 10 of 10
silvio3105
in reply to: jorge_garcia2

I made that lib. I do libs on my own.
Reason why >VALUE is inside the resistor symbol is because then I can stack resistors on 2.54mm/100mill grid. 2.54mm is main grid for schematic I use.
Please, don't tell me to use larger grid.
UX can and must be better. Ditch those origin layers and allow to select object(s) by clicking on it(eg. click on line of the resistor).
It's really hard to click everytime on that small point. I'm lefthanded and I'm using mouse with right hand so accuracy isn't best for me. (When I started using PC, there was no symetrical mouse or mouse for lefthanded people on the market).

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