Fusion pcb design is the worst UI and UX I have experienced.

Fusion pcb design is the worst UI and UX I have experienced.

jorge_orta8GUV6
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Fusion pcb design is the worst UI and UX I have experienced.

jorge_orta8GUV6
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forced to move from the regular EAGLE. this new way to handle libraries is very confusing and is the worst user experience i have ever had trying to make a pcb board.

 

fusion team has a lot to learn.

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jonavark
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It looks like their challenge is incorporating Eagle into the Fusion UI while attempting to seq together all the features. I am with you though, as far as the confusion over how to do simple things. I have been a registered Eagle user for well over a decade and I never got used to THAT UI but I was able to get about 10 large boards done in that time. I agree this is more confusing but I think they're open to constructive criticism. It is hard to put the frustration aside sometimes.

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jorge_orta8GUV6
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Agree.  i think there is a feature or ideas section around.. but would be good to see if they are tracking that

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marketa_prossovaT5UGA
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I'm dying from their graphical menu. Icons can't be moved to the panel or between tabs. If I use functions from multiple tabs, I have to keep switching between them. They want to force me to use keyboard shortcuts, but people who only use the mouse don't want to use the keyboard. Icons can't even be resized or enlarged, nor can their functions be modified. Dreaming about adding icons with custom functions is all I can do.

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jonavark
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Looks to me like they're challenged by the large amount of tasks vs the limited UI space for controls. I suspect they haven't had the time to make the UI please everyone.( it's impossible anyway) I've been a Windows developer since Win 3.1. Always struggle with program flow for the user. To make it easier a developer has to force the user into a workflow they may not be comfortable with or used to. The problem becomes exponentially harder the larger an app grows. I feel your pain as I find it cumbersome to constantly be moving between UI partitions while working. Often, I am frustrated by how long some tasks take. For me, it is the constant saving of files between modules that is painful. Not to mention the ever present dialog that pops up when saving. More of that should be automatic. But, if the app is web based, woof.  Not easy.

 

As far as keyboard shortcuts. That was how I used to use Eagle. I got pretty good at it but unless you use an app every day those shortcuts are quickly forgotten. I did remember some of the Eagle command line stuff I learned 15 years ago though! Keyboard shortcuts are like passwords to me. I forget them in quickly. That means you're going to be hitting the wrong keys as you get back up to speed.

 

All that said. I am using a strong app that is currently free so they get as much room as they need with as much positive feedback as I can give. Without sounding like I have a clue how it all _should_ work. I don't know if my use case is the model case for their UI. I usually start out assuming I am going about things the wrong way!

 

Sorry for the long post. It's therapeutic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pieter.Jan.Van.de.Maele
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Just wanted to jump in here and say that we very much appreciate all this sincere feedback and are eager to learn as much about the struggles you are experiencing as we possible can! Keep it coming! 

Pieter-Jan Van de Maele
Senior Engineering Manager, Fusion Electronics
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ImDaveM
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autodesk need to re-do libraries  FROM SCRATCH!!!! it will never be good with the current approach!

 

 

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jonavark
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I feel like it is hard to use but I may not have the UI down. What kinds of things are you trying to work through?

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ImDaveM
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HI,
i don't really have a problem with schematic design or pcb layout, i can deal with that. 

It's the libraries that suck, i spend more time finding, creating, "managing", updating, pushing and pulling, adding 3D models for components that have existed for decades!!!! , reinventing the wheel each time i need a part,  than i do in actual pcb design!

libraries have always sucked in eagle cad and still suck in fusion electronics!

we need to STOP THINK of LIBRARIES and start thinking COMPONENTS! and we need to work with libraries of OUR components in a 3D VISUAL MANNER and get away from TEXT BASED!

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sergeQJMQW
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BOM - need to be changed, promised for long time!

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jonavark
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I think my main problem with the library feature is that it is disjointed and requires too many steps to create or modify parts. Too many steps and windows between footprint -> 3D model.

 

Also. I don't know about anyone else but I would really like to see dimensions on footprints while examining them in the PCB layout area. This would really speed things up here when I use parts or get designs form someone else and have check footprints.

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jorge_orta8GUV6
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Agree.

 

They to handle the BOM and the fact that you need to add a MPN to attributes of each part is kind of annoying

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