copper clearance for the bottom side vector text and the drill holes are gone when printing in the latest update. How can I bring it back?

copper clearance for the bottom side vector text and the drill holes are gone when printing in the latest update. How can I bring it back?

bjg1072
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copper clearance for the bottom side vector text and the drill holes are gone when printing in the latest update. How can I bring it back?

bjg1072
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On previous versions and on EAGLE, vector texts have a clearance similar to how the clearance was made on trace and pads, not just a boarder, when a polygon pour was added. Now, the vector text is overlapped by the polygon pour and it will be fixed if I made the text into the proportional style. 

 

Also, the drill holes are also gone on printed output unlike before. I use it for my DIY PCB project and now, I have to export my PCB back to EAGLE just to have the Drill holes (and the vector text clearance). 

 

Is it because of my design rules settings?

 

I don't want to go back to EAGLE just to print the PCB.

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jorge_garcia
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Autodesk

Hi @bjg1072,

 

I hope you're doing well. Could you post a picture? If the text is on the copper layer it will isolate in the way you have described. If you have the text on a non-copper layer then you won't get the isolation. Can you confirm?

Look at the inspector and make sure the text is in fact on a copper layer, since colors can be reused.

 

Let me know if you continue to run into problems.

 

Best Regards,



Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

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bjg1072
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No drill holes. Earlier updates used to have it.

 

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Moving the text only moves the trace, not giving the text any copper clearance. 

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constantin.popescuXD3CL
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Autodesk

Hi @bjg1072,

I have just tried this and it seems to be working. I have placed vector text on Top signal layer where I have a copper pour polygon. As you can see from the picture below the copper polygon pours around the text using the correct clearance:

constantinpopescuXD3CL_0-1727934054531.png

It is not clear to me why this doesn't work for you. We haven't made any changes around this area in a while. Would you be willing to share the design that shows this issue with us so I can have a look? You can remove any IP and only leave the things that make the issue happen. My email address is: constantin.popescu@autodesk.com

I hope this helps.

 

Kind Regards,



Constantin Popescu
Principal Software Engineer
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constantin.popescuXD3CL
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Hi @bjg1072,

I apologies because I have checked the Top signal layer thinking that it'll work the same on Bottom. You are correct when using vector text on Bottom signal the copper pour is not updated correctly. This is a bug. I will add a ticket and we'll let you know when a fix is available. In the meantime if you could use Proportional or Custom text that would be great.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.

 

Kind Regards,



Constantin Popescu
Principal Software Engineer
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bjg1072
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It works on the top layer but not at the bottom (I'll be making it from scratch for our school project). I'm using a single-sided PCB for context. 

Not sure why it only works at the top layers. 

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bjg1072
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I just read your reply after my reply. Disregard my previous reply and thanks a lot.
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bjg1072
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I hope they also fix this. EAGLE and previous updates on Fusion still have drill holes and not on Fusion

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constantin.popescuXD3CL
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Hi @bjg1072,

Do you mean that the PDF export doesn't export the holes correctly anymore or something else? If you can please detail the issue a bit more I will have a look.

Regarding the original issue I have fixed it and the fix will be available soon.

 

Kind Regards,



Constantin Popescu
Principal Software Engineer
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bjg1072
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That is good to hear.

And yes, the PDF export doesn't export the holes correctly anymore. I don't know how will I put more details to be honest but the holes are automatic when I export my PCB design to PDF on the earlier updates. Is there any setting I should change?

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constantin.popescuXD3CL
Autodesk
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Hi @bjg1072,

I see. I will have a look and post back.

 

Kind regards, 



Constantin Popescu
Principal Software Engineer
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HelenChen-ElectronicsQA
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi @bjg1072 ,

 

So sorry for any inconvenience.

The issue you are meeting is about using the Print to print the PDF document, right?

Screenshot 2024-10-03 at 9.42.50 PM.pngScreenshot 2024-10-03 at 9.43.06 PM.png

We do notice it's a problem in this way in the Sep release for the printed PDF.

Screenshot 2024-10-03 at 9.48.29 PM.png

While it should work as ago or as work in EAGLE:

Screenshot 2024-10-03 at 9.49.33 PM.png

 

Once there is a fix about this, we will keep you be posted as soon as possible. So sorry for any inconvenience.

 

Besides the workaround you have found by yourself to use EAGLE to print the PDF, could you please also try to export the image in Fusion to see whether it works for you or not?

Screenshot 2024-10-03 at 9.46.00 PM.png

We get below images with this way in Fusion:

export-image-Sep.png

Hope it helps a little bit.

Otherwise please kindly use EAGLE Print as a temp workaround, we will keep you be posted once the fix is ready ASAP.

Thank you so much for your patience. 

 

Best regards,

Helen



Helen Chen
Principle QA for Fusion 360 Electronics
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HelenChen-ElectronicsQA
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Hi @bjg1072 ,

 

Hope everything goes on well. 

We have identified the issue and we are working a fix about this one. Once the fix is ready, we will keep you be posted. Thank you!

 

At the meanwhile, we found another easy workaround for you.

Please change the PCB theme to be Light from Dark from Fusion Preferences > Electronics > PCB theme > Light.

Then try to print the PDF image again.

 

Screenshot 2024-10-09 at 10.51.58 AM.png

If the PCB theme is Dark mode, you will see the issue right now. But if the PCB theme is Light mode, then it should be OK for you. 

 

Screenshot 2024-10-09 at 11.44.15 AM.png

 

Hope it helps a little bit. 

Thank you.

 

Best regards,

Helen



Helen Chen
Principle QA for Fusion 360 Electronics
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panpan_fan
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi @bjg1072 

I hope you are doing well!
Today we release Fusion V2.0.20754 and this issue should be fixed now.

Please have a try, thanks a lot!

Regards,

Panpan Fan

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bjg1072
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I just updated Fusion and it did fixed the problem, thanks a lot!

My other minor (not a big deal) problem is the polygon clearance on vector text. Is there any way to configure the clearance of it? 

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panpan_fan
Autodesk
Autodesk

Hi @bjg1072 

We have some limitation for vector font of text when defining its clearance rule.

The Vector Text is decomposed into lines.

If you want to change the clearance between text of Vector font and polygon, you need to choose the Object Type = Line in the Scope as a workaround.

For example, you can create Custom Rule like: 

Vector3.PNG

For other types, you can choose Object Type = Text.

And we plan to do some improvement for it later.

I will keep you updated if we release the improvement for it.

Before that, please use the workaround. Thanks!

Regards,

Panpan Fan

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