Why isn't offset working to create profile?

Why isn't offset working to create profile?

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Why isn't offset working to create profile?

nkloski
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This is a simple human shape:

 

human.PNG

 

I initiated a Sketch on the bottom, and Offset the outline inwards by 1mm.  The offset should be creating a profile, but it is not...any ideas why?

 

offset.PNG

 

Thanks!


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etfrench
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Can you attach your file here?  The screenshot shows the offset was created.  What do you expect it to look like?  If you're expecting the offset to cut the 3d model, then you'll need to use the Extrude|Cut operation.

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nkloski
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The file is attached to the original post...I expect the offset to be a selectable profile, but it is not creating a 1mm strip to select, just the entire bottom.


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etfrench
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Each of the black dots represent the end points of a spline/line/arc segment of the offset line which may or may not be coincident.  Use the Extend and Trim tools to ensure they are coincident.  Note: The Coincident constraint may work, but I haven't tried it.

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James.Youmatz
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Hi @nkloski,

 

As as @etfrench - using the extend tool is a quick way to see where the holes lie. With that being said - I think this is a bug, more specifically a precision issue. My guess is when the offset occurs, it exposes this precision issue. For instance, when I edit your first sketch and go to use the extend tool, I can see that there is indeed a small gap (although it registers as a closed profile in this sketch). When editing the second sketch on the same point, if I use the extend tool here, it will close the profile.

 

Edit: Just realized it is hard to see where this point is. It is on the bottom of the left arm.

 

Sketch 1:

 

Screen Shot 2017-06-20 at 4.16.50 PM.png

 

 

Sketch 2:

 

 Screen Shot 2017-06-20 at 4.17.15 PM.png

 

Thanks,



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nkloski
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Thanks @etfrench ...I used the coincident constraint...I even went back in a re-coincidentized everything, and still the profile is not acting as it should.


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nkloski
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Shouldn't a closed profile mean that the profile is closed?  Offsetting a closed profile should not create an open profile, right?


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SaeedHamza
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Hi,

 

I'm guessing that the real problem here is the curves of the body

 

You see when I tried to offset outside the body it worked just fine, but if I tried to offset too much I get a warning

 

But the funny thing is that when offsetting to the inside, it only creates a profile when the offset is nearly .6 mm or below, and that's why I'm guessing that the reason is the curves

 

Regards

 

Saeed

 

 

offset not working 1.pngoffset not working 2.png

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etfrench
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I think you have created a very strange model.  This screencast shows another anomaly:

 

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nkloski
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Argh!  This is all very strange...all I was trying to do was copy the canvas (I am not sure of the attached canvas came through or not) using splines, arcs, and straight lines.  I did half of the shape, and then mirrored it over.  It does look like a precision error, through I am not sure how I could have modeled this differently to prevent that?  Or why that is even a problem in the first place?  Thanks, everyone for the assistance!  😞


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SaeedHamza
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Hi,

 

An easy solution to get the offset without changing the shape is to create 2 offsets instead of one

 

Create one to the outside, then delete the offset constraint and create a new offset of the outer offset to the inside, it will work just fine

 

Regards

 

Saeed

 

 

offset not working 3.pngoffset not working 4.png

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nkloski
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@SaeedHamza Yep, that works!  I wish I did not have to do that, but it is a perfect workaround, thanks!!


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jeff_strater
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I think there is a Fusion bug here.  The problem area is near that point on the arm, but not exactly in the same location.

 

See this screencast:

 

 

notice as I move the line very slightly, the area that is wrong is in a very narrow region just to the left of that point.  Very strange.  Logged as FUS-33584

 

Jeff

 


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