What is the best worklow to follow

What is the best worklow to follow

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What is the best worklow to follow

Trackerjoe
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Confused about sketches vs components. Is it best create a component and add sketches under that - or to create sketches and create the component from those sketches?

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davebYYPCU
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Both ways, work.

What you are making, Might make a difference.

 

Might help.....

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Drewpan
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Hi,

 

Do you have a specific Project we can look at to help out?

 

If so then save it and export it then attach to your Posts. A screenshot also helps.

 

If you are confused then you are not alone. There are many of us still learning and a few Gurus that are happy

to help. Check out @TheCADWhisperer and his YouTube Channel of the same name. He has some good learning

material. I went through the Fusion 360 Documentation to learn the interface and did the Tutorials to learn the

basics of how Fusion Works. The Fusion Tutorials and YouTube tutorials are also a good start.

 

The only advice I would give is that Fusion is NOT a CAD program, it is Modeling software. That means the

way you work is a little different. As Dave said, it really depends on what you are making as what methods

work best. I am working on Parametric Modeling first before I try the other main methods which is more

like Sculpting. Think Car in Clay that you move bits around on and change. If you are more artistic, the

Sculpting method may be better for you. If you couldn't Sculpt to save your life (like me) use the numbers

in Parametric Modeling.

 

What I do is Sketch it then Extrude it, then Modify it with Chamfers and such. It works for me. If I

have to create Engineering Plans for it I then take the finished Model and Dimension it and manipulate

Views.

 

The Secret is learn as you go. Ask questions when you are stuck. Post with a File and a screenshot to help

us work out your issue. Check the Forums first in case someone else had the same problem. Be humble and

Polite and accept criticisms in the manner they were offered - to help you learn. Practice a lot.

 

The last one is important. The more practice, the more you learn. Pick something you are interested in

and Model it. I like Modeling Steam Engines, Machines and Aeroplanes. As you model you will get stuck.

Check the Forums first then post and ask for help. They are a pretty good bunch here.

 

Hope this Helps.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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etfrench
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See Rule #1.

ETFrench

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g-andresen
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Hi,

Please share a sample  file or a screenshot showing your object.

File > export > save as f3d on local drive  > attach it to the post.

 

günther

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jeff_strater
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For anyone new to Fusion, I would recommend always creating a component, then putting the sketch inside that component.  That way, if you move the component, the sketch will move with it.  There are valid workflows that have the sketch outside of the component, but I consider them to be advanced workflows ("skeletal modeling")

 

See:  Fusion RULE #1 


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jeff_strater
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@Drewpan , can you explain what you mean by this:  "The only advice I would give is that Fusion is NOT a CAD program, it is Modeling software"?   I certainly consider Fusion a CAD program, as do others, I suspect.


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Drewpan
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Advisor

Hi,

 

The way I understand Fusion now, it wasn't always the case, Fusion is more of an environment with different

tools than just simple CAD software. I originally learned CAD on AutoCAD but when I first started using Fusion

I struggled because I didn't understand the difference and the workflow was quite different. In fact to me it

was literally backwards.

 

In AutoCAD you draw the design THEN Model it for prototyping. In Fusion you would Model it and test it and

tweak the design THEN draw the plans for it. The way I learned CAD was based on Drawing parts and Assemblies.

The way I am learning Fusion is create the finished Model, test it with the tools such as Stress Simulations,

cross check your calculations and get the software to work out stuff like weights and CofG, get the software to

work out Toolpaths and G-Codes for manufacture and when the design is pretty much done, Draw the final

Plans for it. Everything in Fusion is based on the Model and what you do with it.

 

In AutoCAD, I know that some of the features cross over, but I either didn't know them, hadn't used them or

didn't need them. Since all of my AutoCAD drawings were based on a Part or Assembly, I didn't know about

or use Parametrics. I always had Dimensions and my Model or Prototype would come after. If it didn't work

then back to re-design and re-draw the plans - not so in Fusion.

 

Fusion is not CAD software to me because it is a great deal more. CAD software is for drawing Parts and Assemblies

and Fusion does do this but not the way CAD software normally does it. Fusion uses Sketches to create 3D Bodies

that I then modify with the tools. I can then take my Model and do Studies and Tests; I can animate it to see if

there are any issues; I can work out my Tolerances as I go and change them if they don't work. When I am finally

satisfied it all works, not only can I draw finished Plans and simply put in Dimensions and correct Tolerances to

print out and give to Production, I can create much of the CNC code to make it directly. AutoCAD can do some of

this stuff but it was never designed to do it. It is great for Drawing and good at some other stuff. Fusion can

Draw but is great for so many other things.

 

CAD is for Design and it works well. It is needed for less Manufacturing intensive things like Architecture. Fusion is

more for Manufacturing. I can do much more with both pieces of software than I could before and I can do things

that the Designers never even thought of when they wrote it. Both pieces of software have their strengths and

weaknesses. CAD is still used for many things but Environments like Fusion are more powerful in many ways in

some areas. Now that I know more about how Fusion works, and I am learning more each day, I would choose

Fusion over AutoCAD for many jobs because I know how much more powerful it is and what I can do. I can still

create AutoCAD files from Fusion. If I couldn't do something in Fusion that I could with AutoCAD I would save the

File and change over.

 

BTW if I was asked to do Architecture and given the choice I would do it in Fusion right now, so I am not

suggesting CAD is limited in this way. I actually tried AutoCAD Mechanical but got a bit overwhelmed by the

many more features and commands so went back because I wasn't using them at the time. I don't think twice

about creating a Bolt and Thread in Fusion now days but it was a struggle at the time in Mechanical.

 

My original comment was to a beginner who was lost the way I once was. Fusion is a very different way of thinking

than simply drawing a Plan of a Part. I don't even pretend to be an expert at Fusion. I read, lurk and post here to

learn and help others. You have probably noticed I try to direct beginners to the Tutorials in the Documents and

the AutoDesk YouTube Channel and others.

 

I have not tried it recently, but if I went back to AutoCAD and used the knowledge I have with Fusion I think my

CAD would be significantly better than it was. I don't think I would be able to do all I know in Fusion in AutoCAD

however, even if I did hit the Forums and read all the Documents. Based on that, I think that AutoCAD is CAD

software and Fusion is an Modelling Environment that uses CAD like features and can also do CAD. It is a much

different way of thinking, which is why I make the distinction between them.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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TheCADWhisperer
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Consultant

@Drewpan 
CAD - Computer Aided Design 

Q1. Are you using a computer.

Q2. Is the computer aiding your effort.

Q3. Are you using a computer to aid you in an effort to design something?

 

Edit: Each of these 3 questions can be answered with a binary yes/no response - does not require a dissertation.

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Drewpan
Advisor
Advisor

Hi,

 

CAD - Computer Aided Design (Originally referred to as Computer Aided DRAFTING)

Q1. Are you using a computer. Yes

Q2. Is the computer aiding your effort. Yes

Q3. Are you using a computer to aid you in an effort to design (or DRAFT) something? Yes

 

Edit: Each of these 3 questions can be answered with a binary yes/no response - does not require a dissertation.

 

Drafting originally was drawing the Plans to create the Part(s). It was never about creating a Model first then going

back and creating those Drawings. Things have changed but the basics remain the same. The lines have also been

blurred in what software can now do. Originally I would have done the heavy lifting calculations BEFORE I drew

the Plans. Now I Model first then let the software do the calculations after - very different way to work.

 

Andrew

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Trackerjoe
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Thanks for the answer. This is what I was looking for. Thanks again to everyone who replied to my issue.

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