Weird threading artifact

Weird threading artifact

andy_woodward66
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Weird threading artifact

andy_woodward66
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I created a round bar 5mm dia. x 37mm. I then applied a 5 x 0.5 thread along 17.5mm of the rod's length.
The diameter of the clean end has now changed to 4.927mm.
Why would it do that???

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TheCADWhisperer
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@andy_woodward66 

Because of the root/crest diameters of the thread specification.

Split your face to avoid.

 

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andy_woodward66
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Yeah, I figured out the crest dimension - but why apply it to the rest of the part? You're literally telling Fusion not to do that.


IRL, if you tap a piece of round bar in the same way, the rest of the bar doesn't magically change dimension. FFS.

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laughingcreek
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@andy_woodward66 wrote:

IRL, if you tap a piece of round bar in the same way, the rest of the bar doesn't magically change dimension. FFS.


true, but you would also foul and shorten the life of your die feeding in over sized stock.  IRL you would put a shoulder on it.  that shoulder needs to be defined in some way, otherwise fusion would have to guess at it, and that would be the complaint instead.

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MRWakefield
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@laughingcreek wrote:

@andy_woodward66 wrote:

IRL, if you tap a piece of round bar in the same way, the rest of the bar doesn't magically change dimension. FFS.


true, but you would also foul and shorten the life of your die feeding in over sized stock.  IRL you would put a shoulder on it.  that shoulder needs to be defined in some way, otherwise fusion would have to guess at it, and that would be the complaint instead.


I'm not sure I would necessarily agree with this. M5x0.5 6g has major dia. tolerance limits of Ø4.874-Ø4.98 so at the most you'd be turning off 0.126mm (0.063mm radial) before screwcutting or running a die down it. In practice you just wouldn't, as you'd let the screwcutting tool or die 'top' the thread. This has been normal practice in the companies I've worked at for the past 40+ years. You may do things differently but that's my experience.

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Marcus Wakefield


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andy_woodward66
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But you wouldn't shoulder the entire length of the stock either -  only for the length of the thread.

 

So why over-model it in the software when the user will assume that the thread dimensions will only be applied to the designated thread.

 

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andy_woodward66
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I'm not a machining expert, but thank you for explaining it in real terms.

I suspect the issue is another Fusion bug being explained away as a 'feature'.

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