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Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

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01165479
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Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

01165479
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Hello, what I want to achieve, is simple "if there are x number of holes, perform this equation" via parameter.
I got "a" defined in mm and "hole" defined without unit.

I run into trouble when creating the unit less parameter for the required equation
"invalid string ";" in expression"
Here is my code

if((hole==2; (a / 2)); (hole==3; ((a * sqrt(3)) / 2)); ((hole==4; (a * sqrt(2)) / 2)); (hole==5; ((a * sqrt(50 + 10 * sqrt(5))) / 10)); (hole==6; a); (hole==7; (a / (2 * sin(PI / 7)))); (hole==8; (a * sqrt((2 + sqrt(2)) / 2))); 0)

Could anyone help me review this? 

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Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

Hello, what I want to achieve, is simple "if there are x number of holes, perform this equation" via parameter.
I got "a" defined in mm and "hole" defined without unit.

I run into trouble when creating the unit less parameter for the required equation
"invalid string ";" in expression"
Here is my code

if((hole==2; (a / 2)); (hole==3; ((a * sqrt(3)) / 2)); ((hole==4; (a * sqrt(2)) / 2)); (hole==5; ((a * sqrt(50 + 10 * sqrt(5))) / 10)); (hole==6; a); (hole==7; (a / (2 * sin(PI / 7)))); (hole==8; (a * sqrt((2 + sqrt(2)) / 2))); 0)

Could anyone help me review this? 

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CGBenner
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@01165479 

Welcome to the forum.  I've moved your post here for better visibility.  Good luck!


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@01165479 

Welcome to the forum.  I've moved your post here for better visibility.  Good luck!


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g-andresen
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Hi,

Please share the file with the equation

 

File > export > save as f3d on local drive  > attach to post

 

günther

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Hi,

Please share the file with the equation

 

File > export > save as f3d on local drive  > attach to post

 

günther

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g-andresen
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Hi,

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have a look at Product Documentation 

 

günther

 

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Hi,

gandresen_1-1727287099280.png

 

 

have a look at Product Documentation 

 

günther

 

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Hi! Either there is a bug in the Fusion equation parser or there is an inconsistent unit issue (not all terms have the same type of unit). Please share the f3d file here. The forum experts can help take a further look.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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Hi! Either there is a bug in the Fusion equation parser or there is an inconsistent unit issue (not all terms have the same type of unit). Please share the f3d file here. The forum experts can help take a further look.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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etfrench
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Impossible to tell without knowing how each parameter has been defined.

ETFrench

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Impossible to tell without knowing how each parameter has been defined.

ETFrench

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Message 7 of 12
g-andresen
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g-andresen
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Accepted solution

Hi,

1. each condition is introduced with an IF.
2. if you want a value without units, you must divide by mm at the end. (Reason: a has units)
3. the unit rad must be added for the sine, because otherwise Fusion assumes that PI is the number 3.14 and adds the unit deg.
@johnsonshiue  Is this intentional?


4. @johnsonshiue 

the values PI ~ 180° and 2*PI ~ 360° are wrong for the sine.

 

 

günther

 

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Hi,

1. each condition is introduced with an IF.
2. if you want a value without units, you must divide by mm at the end. (Reason: a has units)
3. the unit rad must be added for the sine, because otherwise Fusion assumes that PI is the number 3.14 and adds the unit deg.
@johnsonshiue  Is this intentional?


4. @johnsonshiue 

the values PI ~ 180° and 2*PI ~ 360° are wrong for the sine.

 

 

günther

 

Message 8 of 12
johnsonshiue
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johnsonshiue
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Hi Günther,

 

Many thanks for sharing the file and the comments! I do believe this is the intended behavior. Fusion equation is indeed unit sensitive. If you enter a value without a unit attached, the default unit for the particular function will be added. The default angular unit is degree, not rad. You may change it in the Preferences -> Default Units.

Thanks again!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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Hi Günther,

 

Many thanks for sharing the file and the comments! I do believe this is the intended behavior. Fusion equation is indeed unit sensitive. If you enter a value without a unit attached, the default unit for the particular function will be added. The default angular unit is degree, not rad. You may change it in the Preferences -> Default Units.

Thanks again!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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CGBenner
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CGBenner
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@01165479 Did the information provided answer your question? If so, please use Accept Solution so that others may find this in the future. Thank you very much!


Chris Benner
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@01165479 Did the information provided answer your question? If so, please use Accept Solution so that others may find this in the future. Thank you very much!


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Message 10 of 12
g-andresen
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g-andresen
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Hi,

Many thanks for the feedback.


Is there an explanation for the sine 180deg & 360deg ?

 

günther

 

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Hi,

Many thanks for the feedback.


Is there an explanation for the sine 180deg & 360deg ?

 

günther

 

Message 11 of 12
johnsonshiue
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Hi Günther,

 

Regarding the values returned from trigonometric functions, the minute numerical deviation is due to how these functions are being approximated numerically. Some programs limit the number of decimal places so that the noise is not shown. In Fusion, you may add a wrap around the functions by using "round()." With or without the wrap, the result should be the same.

Here is an explanation of why such deviation exists. 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51820357/c-trigonometric-function-returns-unexpected-value

 

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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Hi Günther,

 

Regarding the values returned from trigonometric functions, the minute numerical deviation is due to how these functions are being approximated numerically. Some programs limit the number of decimal places so that the noise is not shown. In Fusion, you may add a wrap around the functions by using "round()." With or without the wrap, the result should be the same.

Here is an explanation of why such deviation exists. 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51820357/c-trigonometric-function-returns-unexpected-value

 

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 12 of 12
g-andresen
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g-andresen
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Hi,

Many thanks for the info.
I came across this behavior by chance and don't currently have a design example where this could play a role.

 

günther

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Hi,

Many thanks for the info.
I came across this behavior by chance and don't currently have a design example where this could play a role.

 

günther

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