Named View bug.

Named View bug.

HughesTooling
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Named View bug.

HughesTooling
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If you Right click a named view there's an option to update, here's the help on the feature. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work because as soon as I right click a named view to orientate to a new position the view rotates to the old view so you can't make it update to a new view! 

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Mark

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michallach81
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It is confusing but first pick Named View then adjust, and while Named View is still picked click RMB to update.

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In general I agree it's so confusing we can call it a bug.

 

Michał


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HughesTooling
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OK that works is you don't want the view aligned with a face, the trouble is if you click Look at then try and use update it just rotates back to the old view first. I was hoping there was a way to realign the view so it could be used in a 2d drawing and allow the view to update if you moved the part in an assembly.

 

See this thread for a better expination.

 

Mark

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Phil.E
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We are aware of this, I will add your notes. Looks like using the Look At command clears the pre-selection.

 

Have you considered just creating new named views?





Phil Eichmiller
Software Engineer
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HughesTooling
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In the thread I linked to in my second post there's someone using a Named View as the base view in a 2d drawing, this workaround works quite well. The problem is if you move a part in an assembly the Named View is no loner aligned with the component, I thought that update named view might allow you to get the alignment right again. I don't think there's any way to delete a named view, make a new one and link the new named view to an existing base view in a 2d drawing or have I missed something.

 

Mark

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Phil.E
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Thanks for pointing that out. I'll add this note to the bug report and bump the priority. This is now about extended workflows.





Phil Eichmiller
Software Engineer
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TravisJoe
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I am having the exact same problem, and an update I thought would be quick on an angled part is now me trying to find the less painful method to update the manufacturing drawings I made for them.

It would seem there is a cascading issue because

- You cannot change the base view in a drawing, so easily changing views be it a normal view or new named view is impossible without starting over.

- Updating named views to a precise "look at" view is not possible because update issue described here

- Projecting a view in the drawings based on a reference face or edge is not possible, allowing another method of making drawings.

 

Right now I am very lucky that my drawings are not overly complex, because otherwise I would of possibly lost hours, instead of maybe an hour for simple drawings.

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HughesTooling
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In another thread I came up with a workaround where you can apply a joint to a surface of a component then use look at to align the view, this works well when you have a component rotated in more than one plane. It still suffers from the problem where you can't update the named view, what would be useful is a named view linked to a joint so any movements of the assembly update the view.

 

This is a real big weakness with having all the components in one design file as opposed to a design file for each part. If all parts are in separate files then inserted into an assembly the drawings made from the linked files don't need updating every time the assembly's modified. @cmiller66 @TimeraAutodesk is there anything in the works to help with this problem?

 

Thanks Mark

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cmiller66
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Hi Mark and Travis,

You're right, currently a base view created from a Named view will reflect the orientation of that view when the drawing view was created.  Updating the named view in the design will not change the drawing, but new views created using that orientation will reflect the updated design view.  We currently have both auxiliary views as well as “change base view orientation” on our roadmap, that should address the view orientation issue. 

 

Regarding having all the components in one design file as opposed to a design file for each part, I agree that depending on the assembly, having an f3d for the part (which is detailed with its own drawing) vs. creating all of the components in the upper level design and detailing them out from there is the cleaner way to do it.  This requires some forethought  on how you're going to structure the design though.  For other designs though that may not make sense.

 

Not sure if I answered the question, if not please let me know.

 

Thanks,

Chris

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mavigogun
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Issues persist; attempting to update the named view instead selects the previously existing condition.

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JBerns
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Over 16 months since Named View bug was reported. Is there an estimate as to when this may be resolved?

 

Regards,

Jerry

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