Move features into new component

Move features into new component

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Move features into new component

Anonymous
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When I started my document (a box with a cover) I didn't create any components and I created a part of my object (box).

After it I created a new component (cover) and created another part of object inside it.

 

Now I want to move first part into a separate component.

I created new empty component, moved it to the beginning of the timeline, but how can I move features of first part (box) into it?

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Message 2 of 27

TrippyLighting
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I'll wait and see what others will have to say 😉

 


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Message 3 of 27

jhackney1972
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I am a fan of having both my bodies and sketches under the component in the Browser.  Take a look at my Screencast and you will understand.  In my Screencast I point out how I normally design.  I create a file for every component and then link them to the assembly or sub-assembly.  If I need to Break the Link later on for various reasons, I will.

 

@TrippyLighting 

It would seem you are monitoring the answers for some reason.  Do you like my solution?  Let us know yours so we can compare.  Thanks.

 

 

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chrisplyler
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Why didn't you create new components for BOTH the box and its cover before you started sketching and modeling them?

 

Move the timeline marker to after the first sketch, now look at the Browser and drag that sketch into the component. Then move the timeline marker to the right one even, and check to see if the body got created in that component or not, and if not, drag it in there also. Continue this process until all of the boxes steps are in the component.

 

Then move the marker all the way back to the right. And don't make any more mistakes like this. Ever.

 

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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Can you File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here?

Message 6 of 27

Anonymous
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Why didn't you create new components for BOTH the box and its cover before you started sketching and modeling them?

It's my first production model. Now I know that I have to do it.

 

and drag that sketch into the component. Then move the timeline marker to the right one even, and check to see if the body got created in that component or not, and if not, drag it in there also. Continue this process until all of the boxes steps are in the component.

Thank you. I did it, but now all features are in the first component. I moved the sketch from ex-second component back to second component, but now I can't drag features like [Q - extrude] back to it.

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Message 7 of 27

Anonymous
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Sure. Thank you.

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Message 8 of 27

Anonymous
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@jhackney1972 wrote:

I am a fan of having both my bodies and sketches under the component in the Browser.  Take a look at my Screencast and you will understand.  In my Screencast I point out how I normally design.  I create a file for every component and then link them to the assembly or sub-assembly.  If I need to Break the Link later on for various reasons, I will.

Thank you for your detailed answer.

I successfully moved the bodies but I have troubles with moving the sketches.

I got this error for each sketch: Detect some position features may result downstream features fail after restructure.

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Message 9 of 27

TrippyLighting
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@chrisplyler wrote:

 

Why didn't you create new components for BOTH the box and its cover before you started sketching and modeling them?

 


The question the OP asked was how to fix mistakes , not how not prevent them. We've not answered this question!

 

Even with the best intentions to prevent mistakes I still make mistakes.

 

 


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Message 10 of 27

TrippyLighting
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Please share your design. (export as .f3d and attach to next post)


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Message 11 of 27

Anonymous
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Thanks. It's inside message 7.

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Message 12 of 27

jhackney1972
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I believe that three of the model sketches are shared between the Box and the cover so they cannot be move under either component and must remove in the top level.  I have attached the model where you have two distinct components so you can move forward.  From this point on, be aware of keeping your bodies and sketches segregated.  My modified model is attached

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Message 13 of 27

Anonymous
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Thank you! What is the best way to do this model from scratch?

 

Sharing sketches?

Or making new sketches for each component using same parameters?

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Message 14 of 27

TrippyLighting
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@chrisplyler has provided a good explanation.

I would add that in this case where the box and the lid are not only sharing sketches, but features, the strict separation between components is not necessarily the most efficient way to design this.

 

I have attached another design where both, the top and the bottom are bodies and stay that way until all the interface geometry between the two has been defined.

 

For 3D printing I would also design to nominal dimensions, so no clearances are defined. Then at the end I would offset surfaces to define clearances and only then I would add decorative fillets and chamfers to the geometry.

 

Another thing that differs from your design is that I am taking advantage of symmetries. So I start the design with a center point rectangle so I can later mirror features. 

If you can avoid mirroring in a sketch you should do it.

 

 


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Message 15 of 27

chrisplyler
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Did my  post disappear?

 

Anyway, my box and its lid don't share any features. They each have their own Extrudes.

 

 

Message 16 of 27

Anonymous
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Thank you, your way of defining the groove is much better than mine.

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Message 17 of 27

hazymat
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For anyone reading this now, I understand the question has been answered but it didn't seem obvious to me how to do this so I will explain what I did here.

 

I accidentally started just creating sketches and bodies in the top level of the Fusion model, rather than in a component, so to rectify this I created a new component then selected all sketches in top level of the tree, and click+dragged all the selected sketches into the new component in the tree. The bodies seemed to magically follow.

Message 18 of 27

g-andresen
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Hi,

Please start a new thread and share the file.

 

File > export > save as f3d on local device  > attach it to the next post

 

günther

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Message 19 of 27

ian_porteous
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Thanks for clearly explaining how to _fix_ the problem

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Message 20 of 27

tribeofhill
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Everyone appears to address this issue by stating that its a mistake to not preconcieve the hierarchy up front, and then populate it. Shouldn't it be possible to reorganized the hierarchy of the design while working? I don't appear to be able to drag sketches and their extruded bodies into a newly created, but created earlier on the timeline than them, sub-component? Why wouldn't such an re-organizational process be permitted? Like almost every complex design effort its all about properly managing and organizing complexity, but fusion 360 doesn't appears to encourage, or even allow, converging to improved organization?!.