Is the software stable??

[Anonymous]

Hi all,
I am spending hours on my personal design. For the second time today, it seems it passed a crash, and I lost everything. I have few sceen caps from what happened during zoom in/out (mid mouse) just before crash.

Is that normal??

Many thanks in advance!

Avi

[Anonymous]

No it's not normal. 

What are your graphics card settings? 

What are your system specifications? 

[Anonymous]

Hן.

Thank you for your answer!!

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
8GB RAM
Intel Core i7-5500U
Intel HD Graphics 5500

Regards,
AVi

[daniel_lyall]

you need to run fusion on reduced settings, it's you graphic's it is at the low end of graphics cards

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-5500.125586.0.html

[Anonymous]

I managed to get this with my 2007 iMac. 

It has a Intel core2 dueo with, 4gig ram and a nvida 128 meg graphics card. 

Fuison will spank it silly with that config. 

So I agree with Daniel. You will have to turn off all the fancy processes to use fusion. 

Be warned it  might only go so far. 

At least fusion doesn't require "industrial grade"( read more expencive) graphics cards like that other programe. 

[daniel_lyall]

@Anonymous the "industrial grade" cards are over priced unless you wont a teraflop and do a lot of rendering what can be done in the cloud so yer, A gaming card will work well it will do the job, there is so much miss info on what is the best to get, they just have different drivers to make the card work better for doing rendering and massive Assembly's.

the card on my laptop is a gameing card with 2 gig never had a problem other than fusion graphic bugs

[Anonymous]

My piont exactly. 

[Anonymous]

Thank you all for the replies!

I have consulted with my PC expert, he claimed that this might be the graphics driver. Is that possible, or my lineup is anyway crap for 360?

Could you please let me know what is exactly "reduced settings"? What I need to do in order to run 360 at this mode?

Thanks,

Avi

[Anonymous]

Next to your name at the top right hand of the screen click the help button. 

Click the graphics diagnosis tab.

try clicking the tick box at the bottom. 

I think your computer guy is wrong. Your graphics chip is a intergrated asspect of the main CPU. 

But I have been wrong before and dont mind being shown so (a true scientist by nature). 

Finding a driver fix that will allow fusion to run normaly on intergrated intel structure would help a lot of people. 

Your best bet currently, is to try the above. Good luck 

[daniel_lyall]

@Anonymous your not wrong fusion at a minimum needs 1 gig, 2 gig is OK if you have 6 gig or more of ram, on my other laptop with 1 gig graphics fusion is slow as a wet week it has 4 gig of ram, so more is better.

I don't trust what most computer experts say unless they are aligned with no one, my guy only sells me stuff that will do the job with a guaranty if it does not work he will exchage it and put in a diffrent what ever and set it up, for the cost of the part. he has been wrong onces

[Anonymous]

@daniel_lyall

well the screen shot I took was of the old iMac. I put a SSD in recently to speed it up. 

It did work and now it's used as a inter web machine. Yes it still has fusion installed but I only use it to look at drawings and some times just tweek cam code. It's fine for that. 

Try press/pull and it plays up. 

So even with 8 gig ram in it. It has problems. It's the 128meg graphics card that's the weak link there and I know it's that. 

What I now use for my main fusion work is a early 2011 MBP. That also has a SSD 16gig of ram a Intel 5500 combined chip( which fusion doesn't use) and a 1gig chip for the graphics requirement (which is used by fusion when running) even that can be made to crash at times (usually after a update). 

So I think the minimum specks are a bit hopeful. But then I don't know when ADSK last reviewed the requirements. 

Theres a PC sat in the office that has 32 gig of ram and is waiting for me to afford the duel 4 gig graphics cards it can take. It has a zenon 8 core CPU and is fully water cooled(or will be). 

Why do I have that? It was built for laser scanning in hi res mode (1.5m points a second). But I lost the funding stream for the scanner. Now the PC sits there waiting to be put to use! 

SW graphics card specks are a joke. Same as the pricing policy. The maintenance fees. The training costs and the add-ons (HSM anyone! I mean why would you use anything else)  to make it a one stop shop. 

My SW reseller and I don't even talk any more. I didn't even get a Christmas card this year! He hates fusion with a passion. I guess he's stands to lose a lot more clients eventually! 

@Anonymous

Give fusion more than the minimum specks and enjoy. If you can't because of the machine your using. Build a PC that can handle it easy.  

Compared to SW you will still have enough change to go on a nice holiday! 

Try turning off that fancy stuff for the time being on your current machine. 

Having looked at the link Daniel gave there simply isn't the architecture in the HD5500 chip to make a difference. As it says in the link. 

"Depending on the specific CPU, the maximum GPU frequency varies between 850 and 950 MHz. Due to the low TDP, however, the average clock in 3D applications will be somewhat lower.

Equipped with fast dual-channel memory, the HD Graphics 5500 outperforms the HD Graphics 4400 (Haswell, 20 EUs) by 20 - 25 percent and also beats the HD Graphics 5000 (Haswell, 40 EUs). However, even a low-end dedicated GeForce 820M ist about 10 - 30 percent faster than the HD 5500. Games as of 2014/2015 will usually run fluently only at (very) low settings." 

Please let us know if your computer guy finds a driver update  is available for the HD chip. As said before that may help a lot of people. 

I hope ive helped a bit! 

[daniel_lyall]

2 to 4 gig of graphics and 6 pluss of ram and a SSD would do the job 2 and 6 being a minium, 4 and 8 plus would do it very well. the bigger stuff gets the more you need, I found another program you might like to try Autodesk memento it can do .obj that fusion likes there is a youtube vid of it beeing used in the fusion youtube page 

[yoshimitsuspeed]

As stable as a two legged dog in an earthquake.

[Anonymous]

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@yoshimitsuspeed wrote:

As stable as a two legged dog in an earthquake.

@yoshimitsuspeed

that made me laugh so much I had to stop some mouth dribble. Very good that! 

How ever would you say that @Anonymous issue is a hard ware problem. 

@daniel_lyall

yep I seen Curtis video. When I get back to work it's on my download list.

[Anonymous]

More strange things... 
Is that all H/W?

Why the Sketch Palette is too narow (even on wide screen mode), so that the graphic symbols that indicates each command, on the right of the pallete, are partially hidden? And the width of that is not possible to widen. Also, the pallete extends beyond the width of the screen, even while picking the S/W itself full screen mode (rather than the top right window button). 

Why the "Mirror" sign appears near the sketch icon, without any title under it, also seams wrongly there, with the wrong spacing? Same for the Joint, Near Assemble. Is that normal? I really ask the guys here with X100K flight hrs vs. myself on this thing...

So? Is this S/W is stable? Or should I pick something else in the CAD market?

The mirror window is too narrow, so the number of items picked is hidden. 

Am I loosing it, or - ???

Regards,

Avi

[Anonymous]

No idea why you got those results with your screen captures. 

I think your problems are hard ware. Not so much software. 

SW= solid works. It's a competitor to fusion. Yes it's stable but some of the exotic features it can do require some heavy graphics cards or rather it doesn't but the drivers for the graphics are industry rather than gamers drivers. 

SW is expencive compared to fusion. It will also require much higher specks than you have. 

Comparing fusion with Solid works is not realy fare. Solid works has been around for a long time. Yes it's stable but it costs so much more! 

Any cad package you pick will probably require a lot more than the HD5500 chip you have. 

[HughesTooling]

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@Anonymous wrote:

More strange things... 
Is that all H/W?

Why the Sketch Palette is too narrow (even on wide screen mode), so that the graphic symbols that indicates each command, on the right of the palette, are partially hidden? And the width of that is not possible to widen. 
Regards,

Avi

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You can resize dialogs but you can only drag the bottom right corner. When you have a width that works you'll find the dialogs work better if you dock them to the right side of the screen, it best to dock the mirror dialog first then dock the sketch pallet to it. To dock the dialog click and drag the title block, when the mouse pointer gets to the side of the screen you should see a green vertical line.

Mark

Edit got my left and right muddled up, it's the bottom left corner of dialogs.

[PhilProcarioJr]

@Anonymous

This looks like a windows scaling issue, Check your windows scaling and set it to 100% and see if that fixes your problem. I have seen this before.

[Anonymous]

Nice... Nice.... Blame it on my H/W. Probably this is the time to move to a better CAD tool, after having such this. Throwing to waste tens of design hours and learnig the tool. Looks nice and cool. Underperforms, huge understatement.

[Anonymous]

Maybe. But the alternatives are much more expencive. 

You will still need to upgrade you HW. 

I have solid works (outdated now) there is two reasons I don't use it any more. 

1. Ongoing maintenance costs. £1200 a year 

2. Fuison can use any graphics cards as long as they meet the minimum specks.