How do I assemble these joints together (bushing inside a clamp on a rod)?

[mgianzero]

I've been learning more about assemblies and joints, but can't seem to figure out how to set my two points for a rigid joint when it comes to a bushing clamped by another part like this.  I think I can reset my joint origin, but not sure how.  When I try to join them, bearing tends to turn on me.

Ideally, I would like the two bearings (LM8UU) butted against each other and fitted snuggly inside my bracket and all placed somewhere in the middle (not end) of the Y Axis rod.

How do I do this?

[davebYYPCU]

Screencast is not published yet (4 hours), http://autode.sk/2C0yYQ3

can be viewed but not inserted in the pending state....

but @jeff_strater is / was correct, - ( more coffee? .. )

No need for joint origins, the snap points are supplied in both linked components, when the root component is active.

Might help......

[TrippyLighting]

The question waS not whether  joints can be used - we knew that - but whether explicit joint origins can be added to linked components in the assembly 😉

[mgianzero]

So I've now moved the joint origin on my linked object (now broken) and I was successful in making a sliding sub-assembly composed of 3 parts that I can drag and manually slide at will - perfect!  (See attached file "3d Printer Option 1").

However, I tried to rewrite part of this model to move this sub-assembly into a separate component.  I re-applied the slider joint but I cannot seem to be able and grab the X assembly part (Y Carriage Clamp) and slide at will like I did with first model.  What am I doing wrong?  (See attached file "3d Printer Option 2").

[daniel_lyall]

You are not totally wrong Jeff you can do it in a what would be a strange way to do it. 

I stuck a offset plane on a linked component did a project of the surfaces I put the joint origin on the sketch (now this is where it gets strange the joint origin, plane and sketch goes on the destination part) then go start the joint pick the part to be moved then you can select the joint origin as the other joint position and done this is in parts from the same linked component I have not tried two different linked parts yet.

[Anonymous]

@TrippyLighting, @jeff_strater thank you for the feedback, I´m glad that I´m not totally lost in that english-german translation stuff......

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@daniel_lyall wrote:

You are not totally wrong Jeff you can do it in a what would be a strange way to do it. 

I stuck a offset plane on a linked component did a project of the surfaces I put the joint origin on the sketch (now this is where it gets strange the joint origin, plane and sketch goes on the destination part) then go start the joint pick the part to be moved then you can select the joint origin as the other joint position and done this is in parts from the same linked component I have not tried two different linked parts yet.

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@daniel_lyall....but I´m lost now.

1) I inserted a linked component  -> "box"

2) created offset plane -> "plane4". And created a sketch on that plane -> "Sketch4"

3) projected the box-face on the sketch

4) created a joint-origin using the sketch -> "Joint Origin5"

Then I tried to create a joint. Couldn´t select "Joint Origin5". To me, this is no surprise because plane/sketch/joint-origin went into the root-component. I was able to select the usual joint positions in the linked component box - but this is also not a surprise, just "as designed".

What did I miss (or misunderstand)?

Manfred

[daniel_lyall]

Dont worry about what I said it was more directed to jeff any way.

Its put the joint origin on what is the part that is being added to as in, part 1 being joined to part 2 you put the joint origin on part 2 so part 1 joins to part 2 on the joint origin.

[Anonymous]

aaahhh, I just noticed the correction in jeff strater´s post #10. Thank you @jeff_strater for this clarification, my confusion (foreign-language and Fusion issues) is vanished now. Big sigh of relief from here.

Manfred

[Anonymous]

@mgianzero

Nothing wrong with the option2 file, slider joint works fine here.

But:

1) option1 file has a timeline.

2) option2 file has no timeline -> direct modeling mode.

2a) so please check if "Select" -> "Component Drag" checkbox is on

2b) then have a look at "Select" -> "Selection filters" -> all select options should be on (after opening the file, I discovered that the selection filter was set to "joints")

Then you should be able to click-and-drag-and-slide.

[mgianzero]

I know we've got two conversations going here - perhaps we should split this thread up?

Any ways, to continue my conversation about my bushing + clamp + rod assembly ...

Manfred said  ...

"1) option1 file has a timeline.

2) option2 file has no timeline -> direct modeling mode.

2a) so please check if "Select" -> "Component Drag" checkbox is on

2b) then have a look at "Select" -> "Selection filters" -> all select options should be on (after opening the file, I discovered that the selection filter was set to "joints")

Then you should be able to click-and-drag-and-slide."

Oh, I see now!  So you need to be in parametric modeling in order to manually drag joints.  I see - I'm still learning the differences between direct modeling and parametric.

However, I didn't see a checkbox for "Select->Component Drag" or "Select Filters".  Where is that?  But I did see a "Selectable/non Selectable" option when you right click on a component.

I also noticed that you have to ground at least one component if you don't want your model to slide around when you try to click and drag a joint.  Funny thing is, you can't just right click and ground an entire parent sub-assembly (hope I'm using the right words here), but rather you have to ground a component which is rigid-jointed to the components you are attempting to drag.

[Anonymous]

@mgianzero

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@mgianzero wrote:
 

Oh, I see now!  So you need to be in parametric modeling in order to manually drag joints.  I see - I'm still learning the differences between direct modeling and parametric.

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No, this is not what I wrote!

If you are in direct modeling mode (timeline off) and you want to drag components, you have to allow dragging by "Select" -> "Component Drag" switch checkbox on.

By default, in direct modeling mode you cannot drag components unless you "allow" it by activating this checkbox.

And the "Select" is located here:

Here you can find additional and useful information about Fusion 360:

http://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=GUID-737B27C2-D499-41DC-9AC5-D10F596EC028

For example about "Select"

PS

1) regarding " I'm still learning the differences between direct modeling and parametric". It might be a good idea to learn about these concepts and their consequences before you start a project.

2) do you happen to know Marilyn Apfel?